[R] how to adjust link function in logistic regression to predict the proportion of correct responses in 2AFC task?
Prof Brian Ripley
ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
Sat Dec 16 08:42:46 CET 2006
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, Ken Knoblauch wrote:
> In theory, the probability of correct responses ranges between 0.5 and 1
> here, but in practice it is frequent to find cases where the observed
> proportion of correct responses is a little less. The number of trials
> is limited, after all. The inverse of this link function generates a
> Nan when this occurs. Is that a problem? and if so, how can it be dealt
> with here?
No. Links apply to fitted values, not observed proportions, and R link
functions have a validity function to ensure they are used correctly.
> Thank you.
>
> I have used the gnlr function in Lindsey's gnlm package for this problem in
> the past, but glm would be simpler, it seems to me.
>
> @Article{pmid16817511,
> Author="Yssaad-Fesselier, Rosa and Knoblauch, Kenneth",
> Title="{{M}odeling psychometric functions in {R}}",
> Journal="Behav Res Methods",
> Year="2006",
> Volume="38",
> Number="1",
> Pages="28--41",
> Month="Feb"
> }
>
>
>
>> On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, baud-bovy.gabriel at hsr.it wrote:
>>
>>> I have would like to use logistic regression to analyze the
>>> percentage of correct responses in a 2 alternative forced
>>> choice task. The question is whether one needs to take into
>>> account the fact expected probabilities for the percentage of
>>> correct responses ranges between 0.5 and 1 in this case.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> Second, how can one implement a link function of the
>>> type f(x) = (1+exp(x)/(1+exp(x)))/2 in R?
>>
>> Looking at make.link() should give you enough to go on.
>>
>>> Third, can it be also done with gee and/or glmm?
>>
>> For gee, you need to change the C-level internals. (I've done this in the
>> far past for S-PLUS but not for R.) It would be easier to use yags (but I
>> think you still need to dive into the internals).
>>
>> What 'glmm' did you have in mind? Looks like e.g. glmmML and glmmPQL will
>> work with the new link.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Someone may have been here already: e.g.
>> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1434755
>>
>> --
>> Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
>> Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
>> University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self)
>> 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
>> Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
>
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University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self)
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