Thanks! (Was: Re: [R] R-2.1.0 is released)

[Frank E Harrell Jr]

Paulo Justiniano Ribeiro Jr wrote:
> Adding a few more lines to this...
> 
> 
>>>>>Don't forget that universities have to train their students with the
>>>>>softwares companies are using.
>>>
> 
> What do they use?
> This may change among companies and countries.
> If we go for the majority we would probably end up teaching
> only Excel - and F. Harrell would be desperate :) --

Right!  Universities need to teach whatever they think is best for the 
future, then to teach a little of whatever is necessary for the current 
job market (e.g., a 3-day course in SAS).

Frank Harrell


> 
> In some contries like Brazil, a software like R is doing a real
> revolution in practice and teaching of statistics.
> Access to modern statistical methods are readily accessible as they
> have never been before.
> 
> Several year of teaching based on commercial software have produced
> negligible results compared with what are are achieving now.
> This discussion reminds me a quote from Box, Hunter and Hunter book
> (may not be perfectly reproduced below):
> 
> "More important than teaching statistical methods is to teach the
> statistical thinking"
> 
> best
> P.J.
> 
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Frank E Harrell Jr   Professor and Chair           School of Medicine
                      Department of Biostatistics   Vanderbilt University