[R] two lme questions
Scott Rifkin
scott.rifkin at yale.edu
Thu Mar 18 16:38:40 CET 2004
1) I have the following data situation:
96 plots
12 varieties
2 time points
2 technical treatments
the experiment is arranged as follows:
a single plot has two varieties tested on it. if variety A on plot #1 has
treatment T1 applied to it, then variety B on plot #1 has treatment T2
applied to it. across the whole experiment variety A is exposed to
treatment T1 the same number of times as treatment T2.
with respect to time points, plots come in 3 kinds. (1) varietyA,
timepoint#1 vs. variety B, timepoint#1 (2) varietyA timepoint #2 vs.
varietyB timepoint #2, and (3) varietyA timepoint #1 vs. variety A
timepoint#2
plots and varieties are random samples from a population of plots and
varieties, so they are random effects. The technical treatment and
timepoints are fixed effects.
i am particularly interested in the variance components for variety and
timepoint within variety, in the estimate for the fixed stage effect and
in the predictions (BLUP) for variety and stage within variety.
My First Question is about specifying the random part of the lme()
statement
the fixed part is Measurement~Treatment+Time
the random part, i think, should include random=~1|variety/time or
equivalently(?) list(variety=~1,Time=~1)
but how do i also specify that plot should be a random effect? it's not
nested within variety, nor is variety nested within it.
2) I have fixed effects as above where each only has two kinds (2
Treatments, 2 Times). When I use lme and look at the estimates for the
fixed effects I get output that looks like:
>summary(asdf.lme)
...
Fixed effects: Measurement ~ Treatment+Time
Value Std.Error ...
(Intercept) xxx xxx
TreatmentHot xxx xxx
TimeEarly xxx xxx
Correlation
...
where my two treatments are Hot and Cold and my two times are Early and
Late and the xxx are actual numbers.
Why isnt there any line for the Cold treatment and the late time? is it
because these necessarily are the opposite of the Hot and Early ones so
putting them in would be redundant (i.e. Hot+Cold=0, Early+Late=0)?
Thanks much,
Scott Rifkin
scott.rifkin at yale.edu
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