[R] MANOVA power, degrees of freedom, and RAO's paradox
Prof Brian Ripley
ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
Mon Jan 5 13:48:05 CET 2004
R's manova is not intended to handle `nested unbalanced data': it
cross-references ?aov, which says the unbalanced part, and ?manova says
the nested part.
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Oliver Bossdorf wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a nested unbalanced data set of four correlated variables. When I
> do univariate analyses, my factor of interest is significant or
> marginally significant with all of the variables. Small effect size but
> always in the same direction. If I do a MANOVA instead (because the
> variables are not independent!) then my factor is far from being
> significant. How does that come about?
>
> I have found a mention of a so-called Rao's paradox, which seems to deal
> with exactly this phenomenon. Does anyone know more about it, e.g. a
> reference?
>
> The next strange thing is that if do the MANOVA in R, then both
> hypothesis and error degrees of freedom are multiplied by the number of
> variables. When I do it in SAS, however, only the hypothesis d.f. are 4
> x univariate, while the error d.f. are as in univariate, minus 3. This
> is irritating, in particular since no indication is given in the
> handbooks as to how degrees of freedom are calculated in a MANOVA? Can
> anyone tell me more about this? Are there different philosphies that are
> responsible for the differences between R and SAS?
>
> I would be grateful for any help.
>
> Regards, Oliver
>
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