[R] how much memory? was: R does in memory analysis only?

[Samuelson, Frank*]

Is there a way to tell how much memory the computer
running R has?

-Frank


-----Original Message-----
From: David Smith [mailto:dsmith at insightful.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 1:32 PM
To: Ross Boylan
Cc: r-help
Subject: RE: [R] R does in memory analysis only?


Ross Boylan writes:
> R works only on problems that fit into (real or virtual) memory.
> ... does S-Plus have the same limitation?

S-PLUS, like R, does its computations in-memory. So you're limited to
solving
problems which can fit in the available RAM (plus available swap space).
The
OS may impose additional limits (e.g. 2GB of total address space on many
Windows systems).

However, Insightful Miner, which works with S-PLUS, does include algorithms
which can process data sets out of memory. This includes the ability to
perform regressions on data sets much larger than the available RAM (the
only
limit is the availability of disk space to store the results).  You can also
link S-PLUS with Insightful to perform out-of-memory calculations using
S-PLUS functions.  This works especially well with operations like
predicting
from a model, which can be performed on a row-by-row basis.

I wrote a long discussion about in-memory and out-of-memory algorithms in
the
context of S-PLUS and Insightful Miner, which you can download from:

http://www.insightful.com/support/whitepaper_download.asp

# David Smith

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Boylan [mailto:ross at biostat.ucsf.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 2:16 PM
> To: r-help
> Subject: [R] R does in memory analysis only?
> 
> 
> I wonder if someone would confirm something I'm 99% sure of from the
> docs and discussion on the list, but can't find stated explicitly:
> R works only on problems that fit into (real or virtual) memory.
> 
> Thus, even if you have a problem (e.g., simple regression) 
> that could be
> solved by doing some operation on each row of a dataset at a time, you
> can't solve it unless the entire dataset and associated intermediate
> results fit in memory.
> 
> So if you're in 32 bits, your max problem size is about 2G (regular
> Windows and Linux limit your process size to this, though I think some
> fancy versions let you go a bit higher).
> 
> Is there any thought of relaxing this limitation?  I realize doing so
> would be a big job.  I also realize that 64 bits makes it much less
> pressing.
> 
> Finally, does S-Plus have the same limitation?
> 
> Thanks.
> -- 
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