[R] normal score transform

Liaw, Andy andy_liaw at merck.com
Fri Sep 13 15:34:18 CEST 2002 

I don't know of a good way to do this.  If the transformation has a nice
form, then one can use the good old delta method (Taylor expansion).  MASS
has coverage and code, in the context of parameter estimation.  However I
don't think that can be applied to the normal scores transformation (at
least I don't see how).

Excuse me for being nosy, but why would you need to do this?

Andy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ulrich Leopold [mailto:uleopold at science.uva.nl]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 8:24 AM
> To: r-help at stat.math.ethz.ch
> Subject: Re: [R] normal score transform
> 
> 
> But is it also possible to transform the prediction VARIANCE 
> back to non 
> normalized variances? I do not have these variances before 
> hand. Or would be 
> a solution to use the standard deviation as this will be 
> within the range of 
> the predictions? I'm not quite sure...
> 
> Ulrich
> 
> Liaw, Andy wrote:
> > I suppose you can use approx() to linearly interpolate.  
> For example:
> > 
> > 
> >>x <- rnorm(10, mean=100, sd=10)
> >>x
> > 
> >  [1]  92.46931  96.71141 103.82640 110.57520  88.30825 
> 106.35602  90.60754
> >  [8] 102.29406  94.19188 107.28770
> > 
> >>z <- qnorm(ppoints(x))
> >>z
> > 
> >  [1] -1.5466353 -1.0004905 -0.6554235 -0.3754618 -0.1225808 
>  0.1225808
> >  [7]  0.3754618  0.6554235  1.0004905  1.5466353
> > 
> >>z.test <- rnorm(10)  ## pretend these are the "predicted values"
> >>z.test
> > 
> >  [1]  1.1733989  1.3471282 -0.2409461  0.6951916 -0.6365362 
> -1.0181946
> >  [7] -0.5347734  2.2335172  0.4747204  0.4917223
> > 
> >>x.test <- approx(z, x, ztest)$y
> >>x.test
> > 
> >  [1] 100.35171  98.74701  94.90596 107.39995  98.42442  
> 94.84765  91.54209
> >  [8] 106.87274        NA 103.25218
> > 
> > Note that approx() by default does not extrapolate (thus 
> the NA), and the
> > alternative (rule=2) probably isn't appropriate for this 
> application.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > Andy
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Ulrich Leopold [mailto:uleopold at science.uva.nl]
> >>Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:10 AM
> >>To: r-help at stat.math.ethz.ch
> >>Subject: Re: [R] normal score transform
> >>
> >>
> >>How would I do a backtransform of predicted values (derived 
> >>from the given
> >>data) AND the variance?
> >>
> >>Ulrich
> >>
> >>Liaw, Andy wrote:
> >> > The "normal scores" are just ranks of the data mapped onto 
> >>the normal CDF,
> >> > so something like:
> >> >
> >> > qnorm((rank(x) - 0.375)/(sum(!is.na(x)) + .25))
> >> >
> >> > should do what you want.  Another alternative (as 
> >>calculated in qqnorm) is
> >> >
> >> > qnorm(ppoints(x))
> >> >
> >> > Andy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>From: Ulrich Leopold [mailto:uleopold at science.uva.nl]
> >> >>Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 12:59 PM
> >> >>To: r-help at stat.math.ethz.ch
> >> >>Subject: [R] normal score transform
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Dear list,
> >> >>
> >> >>could someone point me to the normal score transform and it's
> >> >>use in R?
> >> >>
> >> >>I would like to transform my data with normal score
> >> >>transform, do some
> >> >>geostatsitical predictions and would like to transform the
> >> >>estimated values
> >> >>back including the estimation variance.
> >> >>
> >> >>Any suggestions?
> >> >>
> >> >>Ulrich
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