[R] [nlme] BLUPs for a new subject in a fitted lme model?
iwhite@staffmail.ed.ac.uk
iwhite at staffmail.ed.ac.uk
Mon Aug 19 11:40:06 CEST 2002
In the simple model Y = mu + U + e, where U and e have variances Vu and
Ve, the BLUP for a subject with observation Y is
E(U|Y) = Vu * (Y - mu)
----
(Vu+Ve)
Similarly for more complicated models, i.e. the BLUP is a simple function
of the variance components. I'm not sure whether this answers the original
question, but it must be relevant and nobody has mentioned it so far.
On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk wrote:
> That's not the whole story. What (as I understand it) Wilhelm has are not
> just new subjects, but new observations on new subjects. Then there are
> BLUPs associated with those new subjects. Think of an enlarged data set
> with the old and the new subjects: you can apply the lme at a given set of
> parameter values and find the BLUPs for all the subjects.
>
> It is equally true that new observations on the old subjects will change
> the BLUPs.
>
> I don't know how to do this with lme without refitting, although the
> pieces needed must be in the package.
>
>
> On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Ulises Mora Alvarez wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Wilhelm B. Kloke wrote:
> >
> > > I am seeking for a method to calculate, given a fitted lme model
> > > and some data for a subject, the random effects predictors
> > > for this subject. I can only find predictors for the subjects used in
> > > creating the fit. Of course I could just add the subject and redo the fit.
> > > But I want to avoid just this refitting.
> > >
> > > Thanks for help
> > > wbk
> >
> > Once you've a lme model, you don't need to stimate new random effects for
> > new subjects.
> >
> > As stated by Pinheiro & Bates:
> > "Fixed affects are parameters associated with an entire population, or
> > with repeatable levels of experimental factors.
> > Random effects are instead associated with experimental units drawn at
> > random from a population."
> >
> > Maybe you'd like to see Pinheiro & Bates' book for further details.
>
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