[R] non-ideal behavior in princomp/ not a feature but a bug
Ritter, Christian C SRTCL-CTGAS
Christian.C.Ritter at OPC.shell.com
Fri Sep 29 09:33:14 CEST 2000
... I checked and Brian and I are both right (see bottom for prior mail
Let me explain:
1. Indeed, in principle, princomp allows data matrices with are wider than
[,1] [,2] [,3] [,4]
[1,] 1 1 2 2
[2,] 1 1 2 2
princomp(x = x1)
Comp.1 Comp.2 Comp.3 Comp.4
0 0 0 0
4 variables and 2 observations.
So far so good
2. However, not all matrices work, such as the first one I tried yesterday.
an example of a matrix which does not work.
[,1] [,2] [,3] [,4]
[1,] -0.4 -1.6 -1.0 -1.8
[2,] -2.2 -0.3 1.4 0.2
Error in princomp(x) : covariance matrix is not non-negative definite
Seeing this behavior on the matrix I tried, I hastily concluded that
princomp was not
suitable for this type (as similar functions are in many other software
are written for psychologists but not for chemometricians).
However, the problem is not with the design of princomp in general, but with
check it performs inside, which can have problems with roundoff:
if (any(edc$values < 0))
stop("covariance matrix is not non-negative definite")
As it happens, the covariance of x1 has eigenvalues of:
 0 0 0 0
and x has eigenvalues
 7.345000e+00 1.110223e-16 0.000000e+00 -1.110223e-16
Therefore, the observed behavior is logical (but wrong).
Oh, by the way:
system x86, Win32
From: Prof Brian Ripley [mailto:ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 2:16 PM
To: r-help at stat.math.ethz.ch; Ritter, Christian C SRTCL-CTGAS
Subject: Re: [R] non-ideal behavior in princomp
> From: "Ritter, Christian C SRTCL-CTGAS" <Christian.C.Ritter at OPC.shell.com>
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:59:25 +0200
> This problem is not limited to R, but R is one of the packages in which it
I'm sorry, but I must be missing something here. I think R (and S)
do already do what you want here.
> princomp is a nice function which creates an object for which inspection
> methods have been written.
But there is also prcomp. (What are `inspection functions'? Do you
mean methods for what Bill Venables sometimes calls accessor functions?)
princomp is written for more flexibility, for example to use robust
methods of extracting PCs.
> Unfortunately, princomp does not admit cases in which the x matrix is
> than high (i. e. more variables than observations). Such cases are typical
> in spectroscopy and related disciplines. It would be nice if the following
> two features were added to princomp:
> 1. as a default behavior, princomp should digest wider than high matrices
> (it should just compute the nontrivial principal compontents).
prcomp does exactly that, although there are problems for which the
trivial PCs are the interesting ones!
What problems are you finding with princomp? If I give it a n x p matrix
with n < p, I get (correctly) p PCs, with (effectively) 0 standard
deviations for the last n-p. It's possible that this does not always
work for numerical reasons, but can you describe the `problem' you
feel it has? (Perhaps the criterion for non-negative-definiteness is
> 2. as an optional behavior, princomp should only calculate (and return)
> first A principal components. This is useful, if x is very wide and very
Well, only min(n, p) PC's are defined, so I presume you want A < min(n, p)?
Then you just extract the first A PCs. If A << min(n, p) there are faster
algorithms, but they are not currently implemented in R, and I can
think of very few problems where the speed difference would be noticeable.
> Some might remark that all this can be done easily by svd or by
> the NIPALS algorithm, but I would prefer to see it in the common version.
It is, in prcomp which uses the svd.
Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
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