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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;" class="">Estimados, </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;" class="">Se adjunta solución al problema de testar significancia de los ejes en el RDA. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">El 6 sept 2016, a las 9:35 a.m., Carlos Ortega <<a href="mailto:cof@qualityexcellence.es" class="">cof@qualityexcellence.es</a>> escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Me alegro de que fuera bien.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Creo que es conveniente que si la sugerencia ha solucionado tu duda, la compartas con la comunidad por si otro se encuentra con el mismo problema.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Gracias,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Carlos Ortega</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.qualityexcellence.es/" class="">www.qualityexcellence.es</a></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">El 6 de septiembre de 2016, 14:03, LAE <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:luisespo00@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">luisespo00@hotmail.com</a>></span> escribió:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Muchas gracias Carlos. Arme el modelo como lo sugeriste y si funciona. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Desde ya muchas gracias. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Saludos, Luis<br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class="">El 5 sept 2016, a las 3:57 p.m., Carlos Ortega <<a href="mailto:cof@qualityexcellence.es" target="_blank" class="">cof@qualityexcellence.es</a>> escribió:</div><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hola,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">El mensaje de error "<span style="color:rgb(255,38,0);font-family:"lucida grande";font-size:14px" class="">model must be fitted with formula interface" </span><span style="font-family:"lucida grande";font-size:14px" class=""><font class="">te está indicando que el objeto "</font></span><span style="font-family:'lucida grande';font-size:14px" class=""><b class="">ssp.rda.hel</b>" no lo construiste de acuerdo a una fórmula.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:'lucida grande';font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:'lucida grande';font-size:14px" class="">En la ayuda de la función (entiendo que es el paquete "vegan") aparece un ejemplo en el que el modelo se ha construido con una fórmula:</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:'lucida grande';font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">data(varespec) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">data(varechem) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">vare.cca <- cca(varespec ~ Al + P + K, varechem) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">## overall test </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">anova(vare.cca)<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:'lucida grande';font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="lucida grande" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" class="">¿Cómo construiste "ssp.rda.hel" ?</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="lucida grande" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="lucida grande" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" class="">Saludos,</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="lucida grande" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" class="">Carlos Ortega</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="lucida grande" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" class=""><a href="http://www.qualityexcellence.es/" target="_blank" class="">www.qualityexcellence.es</a></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:'lucida grande';font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><div class="h5">El 5 de septiembre de 2016, 20:19, LAE <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:luisespo00@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">luisespo00@hotmail.com</a>></span> escribió:<br class=""></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><div class="h5">Estimados, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Buenas Tardes, </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Estoy teniendo problema para testar la significancia de los ejes del RDA. NO se cual seria el error. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Alguien me podría ayudar? Desde ya muchas gracias. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><div class="">Saludos, Luis<br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5">
<div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal" class=""><br class=""><div style="font-family:'Lucida Grande';font-size:14px" class=""># Tests of all canonical axes</div><div style="font-family:'Lucida Grande';font-size:14px" class=""><div class=""> anova.cca(ssp.rda.hel, by="axis", step=1000)#Para saber la significancia de cada eje</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font color="#ff2600" class="">Error in anova.cca(ssp.rda.hel, by = "axis", step = 1000) : </font></div><div class=""><font color="#ff2600" class=""> model must be fitted with formula interface</font></div><div class=""><font color="#ff2600" class=""><br class=""></font></div></div></span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><br style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal" class=""><div style="line-height:normal;word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><br style="font-size:12px" class=""><br style="font-size:12px" class=""><br style="font-size:12px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px" class="">Dr. Luis A. Espínola.</span><span style="font-size:12px" class=""> </span><br style="font-size:12px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px" class="">Biólogo - Ecologia de Sistemas</span><span style="font-size:12px" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12px" class="">Acuáticos</span><br style="font-size:12px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px" class="">Instituto Nacional de Limnología</span><span style="font-size:12px" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12px" class="">(INALI)</span><br style="font-size:12px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px" class="">Ciudad Universitaria - Paraje "El</span><span style="font-size:12px" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12px" class="">Pozo"</span><br style="font-size:12px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px" class="">CP: 3000, Santa Fe. Argentina</span><br style="font-size:12px" class=""><span style="font-size:12px" class="">TE: <a href="tel:%2B%2054%20342%204511645" value="+543424511645" target="_blank" class="">+ 54 342 4511645</a></span><span style="font-size:12px" class=""> </span><br style="font-size:12px" class=""><br style="font-size:12px" class=""></div></div></div></div></div><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""></div></div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><span class=""><span class=""><image004.jpg></span></span>
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