[Rd] Request for comment: namespace resolution in terms(<formula>, specials=) [<pkg>::<name>, etc.]
Ben Bolker
bbo|ker @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Mon Apr 14 23:49:42 CEST 2025
I don't have any concerns about these changes, don't see any need to
preserve the old behaviour.
In lme4 and glmmTMB (and now broken out into a separate `reformulas`
package, I do this the hard way, walking down the parse trees of formula
objects and looking for specials, and not using the functionality here.
Mikael showed how I could use the *new* functionality instead:
https://github.com/bbolker/reformulas/issues/4
but honestly if I were going to change things in `reformulas` it would
be in the direction of streamlining and refactoring, not changing the
basic approach.
cheers
Ben Bolker
On 2025-04-14 5:43 p.m., Mikael Jagan wrote:
> [CC: maintainers of R packages survival, mgcv, lme4, RItools]
>
> Dear R-devel subscribers,
>
> If you have never used stats:::terms.formula or its 'specials' argument,
> then feel free to stop reading or otherwise review help("terms.formula")
> and help("terms.object").
>
> Folks may have noticed a recent change in R-devel:
>
> $ svn log -v -r 88066
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> r88066 | maechler | 2025-03-28 17:04:27 -0400 (Fri, 28 Mar 2025) |
> 1 line
> Changed paths:
> M /trunk/doc/NEWS.Rd
> M /trunk/src/library/stats/src/model.c
> M /trunk/tests/reg-tests-1e.R
>
> terms(<formula>, specials = "<non-syntactic>") now works
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> intended to resolve Bug 18568
>
> https://bugs.r-project.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18568
>
> which pointed out the following undesirable behaviour in R-release:
>
> > attr(terms(~x1 + s (x2, f) + s (x3, g), specials = "s"),
> "specials")
> $s
> [1] 2 3
>
> > attr(terms(~x1 + `|`(x2, f) + `|`(x3, g), specials = "|"),
> "specials")
> $`|`
> NULL
>
>
> namely that non-syntactic names like "|" were not supported.
> Unfortunately,
> the patch (r88066) broke one package on CRAN, RItools, which relied on the
> following
>
> > attr(terms(~x1 + mgcv::s (x2, f), specials = "mgcv::s"),
> "specials")
> $`mgcv::s`
> [1] 2
>
> > attr(terms(~x1 + `mgcv::s`(x2, f), specials = "mgcv::s"),
> "specials")
> $`mgcv::s`
> NULL
>
>
> whereas in R-devel we see
>
> > attr(terms(~x1 + mgcv::s (x2, f), specials = "mgcv::s"),
> "specials")
> $`mgcv::s`
> NULL
>
> > attr(terms(~x1 + `mgcv::s`(x2, f), specials = "mgcv::s"),
> "specials")
> $`mgcv::s`
> [1] 2
>
>
> A strict interpretation of 'specials' as a list of *name*s of functions
> would
> suggest that the old behaviour was "wrong" (and accidental, predating
> package
> namespaces altogether) and that the new behaviour is "right". After all,
> `mgcv::s` (with backticks) is a name (of type "symbol", class "name")
> whereas
> mgcv::s (without backticks) is a call (of type "language", class "call").
>
> Martin and I are requesting comments from the community, especially R-core
> members and package authors who use 'specials', on the following:
>
> 1. Should the previous (long standing but undocumented, likely
> rarely used)
> behaviour be preserved going forward?
> 2. If we pursue a more *robust* implementation of namespace
> resolution by
> stats:::terms.formula, not relying on details of how non-
> syntactic names
> are deparsed, then what should that look like?
>
> (I say "likely rarely used" because stats:::terms.formula is called
> primarily by
> package *authors* to parse formulas of package *users*. Only a subset
> of those
> packages will set 'specials', only a subset of *those* packages will set
> specials="<pkg>::<name>", and only one such package is known to be
> broken due
> to r88066.)
>
> Relevant to (2) is an earlier thread
>
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2025-March/083906.html
>
> in which I proposed that we make use of an optional 'package' attribute of
> 'specials', so that
>
> specials = structure(c("s", "s"), package = c("", "mgcv"))
>
> would match calls s(...) and mgcv::s(...) separately. This attribute
> would be
> preserved by the 'specials' component of the 'terms' object, e.g.,
>
> > attr(terms(~x1 + s(x2, f) + mgcv::s(x3, g),
> + specials = structure(c("s", "s"), package = c("",
> "mgcv"))),
> + "specials")
> $s
> [1] 2
>
> $s
> [1] 3
>
> attr(,"package")
> [1] "" "mgcv"
>
> A patch against R-devel (at r88141) implementing this proposal is attached.
>
> Mikael
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