[Rd] specials and ::

[Josiah Parry]

I wouldn't go so far as to call people who don't want to wholesale attach
namespaces as "nuts."

{survival} is provided via the {censored} R package to integrate into the
{tidymodels} ecosystem.
And the reverse imports of the package is massive! Assuming that each and
every one of them
should attach the entire namespace is a bit presumptuous!

I am one of those nuts that likes to namespace everything. It just takes
one conflicting method to
taint it :)



On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 12:44 PM Therneau, Terry M., Ph.D. via R-devel <
r-devel using r-project.org> wrote:

> Thanks to all for the responses. A couple notes It is nice to get the
> overall feedback
> that I'm not nuts to be terribly annoyed by this, and don't need to fix it
> tomorrow.
> Berwin 's note brings to mind the old adage that "The reason it is so hard
> to make things
> foolproof is that fools are so ingeneous." 1. Using survival::strata(inst)
> in the rhs of
> the survdiff call does not generate an error message. Because the stata
> function is not
> recognized as special one instead gets the wrong answer. (Or I should say,
> "the correct
> answer to a different question".) Ditto for most of the rest of the
> package functions. The
> very worst kind of bug. 2. Using specials =c("strata", "survival::strata")
> could work. I
> always process the result with a small "untangle.specials" function, a
> leftover from when
> R and Splus returned slightly different formula structures. I could put
> post-processing
> there. I'll think on this some more. But Ivan's follow-up was not
> encouraging. 3. Bill's
> suggestion to pre-fix the formula. Not a bad idea. If I followed the Call
> <- match.call()
> that lives at the top of my code by an immediate fix of the formula
> portion of the list,
> then all else would flow. And as perhaps a bit of a snark, the user would
> see the
> corrected form in their printout. The nuts who want to call a survival
> routine without
> attaching the name space will be out of luck though. Terry
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