[Rd] [External] subfolders in the R folder
Duncan Murdoch
murdoch@dunc@n @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Tue Mar 28 20:24:26 CEST 2023
On 28/03/2023 2:00 p.m., Henrik Bengtsson wrote:
> A quick drive-by-comment: What if 'R CMD build' would have an option
> to flatten R/ subfolders when building the tarball, e.g.
>
> R/unix/a.R
> R/windows/a.R
> R/a.R
>
> becomes:
>
> R/00__unix__a.R
> R/00__windows__a.R
> R/a.R
>
> ? Maybe that would be sufficient for most use cases. The only thing
> I can imagine is that source file references (e.g. in check NOTEs)
> will be toward the latter and not the former.
If you are renaming a file (or merging multiple files, etc.) you can use
#line directives so that diagnostic messages refer to the original file.
Duncan Murdoch
> Of course, one could write a 'build2' shell script locally that wraps
> all this internally, so that one can call 'R CMD build2 mypkg', which
> then creates a flattened copy of the package folder, and runs 'R CMD
> build' on that. Prototyping that could be a good start to see what
> such a solution will bring and what it breaks.
>
> /Henrik
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 6:24 PM Barry Rowlingson
> <b.rowlingson using lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> The "good reason" is all the tooling in R doesn't work with subfolders and
>> would have to be rewritten. All the package check and build stuff. And
>> that's assuming you don't want to change the basic flat package structure -
>> for example to allow something like `library(foo)` to attach a package and
>> `library(foo.bar)` to attach some subset of package `foo`. That would
>> require more changes of core R package and namespace code.
>>
>> As a workaround, you could implement a hierarchical structure in your file
>> *names*. That's what `ggplot2` does with its (...downloads tarball...) 192
>> files in its R folder. Well mostly, there's a load of files called
>> annotation- and geom- and plot- and position- and stat- etc etc. No reason
>> why you can't have multiple "levels" separated with "-" as you would have
>> multiple folder levels separated with "/". You can then do `ls geom-*` to
>> see the `geom` "folder" and so on (on a unix shell).
>>
>> And then when R Core receive a patch that implements subfolders, a quick
>> shell script will be able to create the hierarchy for you and drop all the
>> files in the right place.
>>
>> One reason for the flat folder structure may be that R's packages
>> themselves have no structure to the functions - compare with Python where
>> modules can have subfolders and functions in subfolders can be access with
>> module.subfolder.subsub.foo(x), and module subfolders can be imported etc.
>> The whole module ecosystem was designed with structure in mind.
>>
>> I don't think there's any restriction on subfolders in the "inst" folder of
>> a package so if you have scripts you can arrange them there.
>>
>> Given that most of my students seem to keep all their 23,420 files in one
>> folder called "Stuff" I think we can manage like this for a bit longer.
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 4:43 PM Antoine Fabri <antoine.fabri using gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This email originated outside the University. Check before clicking links
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>>>
>>> Dear R-devel,
>>>
>>> Packages don't allow for subfolders in R with a couple exceptions. We find
>>> in "Writing R extensions" :
>>>
>>>> The R and man subdirectories may contain OS-specific subdirectories named
>>> unix or windows.
>>>
>>> This is something I've seen discussed outside of the mailing list numerous
>>> times, and thanks to this SO question
>>>
>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14902199/using-source-subdirectories-within-r-packages-with-roxygen2
>>> I could find a couple instances where this was discussed here as well,
>>> apologies if I missed later discussions :
>>>
>>> * https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2009-December/056022.html
>>> * https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2010-February/056513.html
>>>
>>> I don't see a very compelling conclusion, nor a justification for the
>>> behavior, and I see that it makes some users snarky (second link is an
>>> example), so let me make a case.
>>>
>>> This limitation is an annoyance for bigger projects where we must choose
>>> between having fewer files with too many objects defined (less structure,
>>> more scrolling), or to have too many scripts, often with long prefixed
>>> names to emulate essentially what folders would do. In my experience this
>>> creates confusion, slows down the workflow, makes onboarding or open source
>>> contributions on a new project harder (where do we start ?), makes dead
>>> code easier to happen, makes it harder to test the rights things etc...
>>>
>>> It would seem to me, but I might be naive, that it'd be a quick enough fix
>>> to flatten the R folders not named "unix" or "windows" when building the
>>> package. Is there a good reason why we can't do that ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>> PS:
>>> Other SO Q&As:
>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33776643/subdirectory-in-r-package
>>>
>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18584807/code-organisation-in-r-package-development
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