[Rd] strange behaviour read.table and clipboard
Martin Maechler
maechler at stat.math.ethz.ch
Wed Aug 16 09:41:14 CEST 2017
>>>>> PIKAL Petr <petr.pikal at precheza.cz>
>>>>> on Wed, 16 Aug 2017 06:25:48 +0000 writes:
> Hi Duncan The simples spreadsheet is:
> Put a name in the cell, let say "a1" Put number e.g. 1
> below "a1" Copy the number to enough rows Select this
> column and press ctrl-c
> result is
>> temp<- read.delim("clipboard") str(temp)
> 'data.frame': 1513 obs. of 1 variable: $ a1: Factor w/ 2
> levels "1","a1": 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ...
>> which(temp$a1=="a1")
> [1] 1365
>>
To make this much easier to diagnose,
use something like
str(ll <- readLines("clipboard"))
and do this both in R 3.4.1 (or R 3.4.1 patched) and R-devel.
(very easy if you use Emacs ESS also on Windows and have several
versions of R installed)
I just did that and both versions of R behaved identically,
i.e., returned the same 'll'
(I've tried with different versions of Copy regions from excel;
my version of Windows (2008 Server R2, fully uptodate with
updates) is very different than yours; Office is said to be
Office 2013).
Martin
> I tested it in vanilla R
>> sessionInfo()
> R Under development (unstable) (2017-07-31 r73003)
> Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) Running under:
> Windows 10 x64 (build 14393)
> Matrix products: default
> locale: [1] LC_COLLATE=Czech_Czech Republic.1250
> LC_CTYPE=Czech_Czech Republic.1250 [3]
> LC_MONETARY=Czech_Czech Republic.1250 LC_NUMERIC=C [5]
> LC_TIME=Czech_Czech Republic.1250
> attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils
> datasets methods base
> loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1]
> compiler_3.5.0
>>
> Excel 16 or 15 I am not sure.
> R-devel 2015 (69443) works as expected so it started a
> believe around May or June this year, when I installed new
> R version.
> I hope it could help to trace the problem. If I can help
> any further, let me know.
> Best regards Petr
>> -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Murdoch
>> [mailto:murdoch.duncan at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August
>> 16, 2017 12:35 AM To: PIKAL Petr
>> <petr.pikal at precheza.cz>; r-devel at r-project.org Subject:
>> Re: [Rd] strange behaviour read.table and clipboard
>>
>> On 15/08/2017 10:03 AM, PIKAL Petr wrote: > Dear all
>> >
>> > I used to transfer data from excel to R by simple
>> ctrl-c and read.delim("clipboard") construction. I know
>> it is a bad practice but it is easy and for quick
>> exploratory work it is OK. However after changing to new
>> R devel few days ago I encountered weird behaviour. I
>> tried one or two columns.
>>
>> You haven't posted something that is reproducible. I
>> don't have Excel, but I can cut and paste from
>> Libreoffice, and I don't see this. However, it's not the
>> same spreadsheet as you used, so I wouldn't be
>> comfortable saying I did what you did.
>>
>> Please reduce the size of your spreadsheet if you can,
>> and then post instructions for how to construct it, and
>> what to cut and paste from it. Then others can try what
>> you did and see if this is specific to your machine, to
>> that particular version of R-devel, to Excel, etc.
>>
>> Duncan Murdoch
>>
>>
>> > In case of 2 columns, header is repeated after 526
>> items >> mar<-read.delim("clipboard") >>
>> which(mar$a2=="a1") > [1] 525 1051 1577 >>
>> diff(which(mar$a2=="a1")) > [1] 526 526 > and only first
>> header item is repeated.
>> >
>> > In case of one column, header is repeated after 1107
>> items
>> >
>> >> mar<-read.delim("clipboard") >>
>> diff(which(mar$a2=="a2")) > [1] 1107 1107
>> >
>> > And all items in object are therefore changed to
>> factor.
>> >
>> > BTW, readxl package works on same excel file smoothly.
>> >
>> > I will try to download the most recent R version to
>> check it, but it could take some time due to our IT
>> issues.
>> >
>> > Best regards > Petr
>> >
>> >> version > _ > platform x86_64-w64-mingw32 > arch
>> x86_64 > os mingw32 > system x86_64, mingw32 > status
>> Under development (unstable) > major 3 > minor 5.0 > year
>> 2017 > month 07 > day 31 > svn rev 73003 > language R >
>> version.string R Under development (unstable) (2017-07-31
>> r73003) > nickname Unsuffered Consequences
>> >
>> >
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> uzavření smlouvy, a to z jakéhokoliv důvodu i bez uvedení
> důvodu. - a obsahuje-li nabídku, je adresát oprávněn
> nabídku bezodkladně přijmout; Odesílatel tohoto e-mailu
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> příslušná smlouva je uzavřena teprve výslovným dosažením
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> emailu informuje, že není oprávněn uzavírat za společnost
> žádné smlouvy s výjimkou případů, kdy k tomu byl písemně
> zmocněn nebo písemně pověřen a takové pověření nebo plná
> moc byly adresátovi tohoto emailu případně osobě, kterou
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