[Rd] summary( prcomp(*, tol = .) ) -- and 'rank.'
Jari Oksanen
jari.oksanen at oulu.fi
Fri Mar 25 10:08:38 CET 2016
> On 25 Mar 2016, at 10:41 am, peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As I see it, the display showing the first p << n PCs adding up to 100% of the variance is plainly wrong.
>
> I suspect it comes about via a mental short-circuit: If we try to control p using a tolerance, then that amounts to saying that the remaining PCs are effectively zero-variance, but that is (usually) not the intention at all.
>
> The common case is that the remainder terms have a roughly _constant_, small-ish variance and are interpreted as noise. Of course the magnitude of the noise is important information.
>
But then you should use Factor Analysis which has that concept of “noise” (unlike PCA).
Cheers, Jari Oksanen
>> On 25 Mar 2016, at 00:02 , Steve Bronder <sbronder at stevebronder.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Kasper, this is a 'big' issue. Does your method of taking only
>> n PCs reduce the load on memory?
>>
>> The new addition to the summary looks like a good idea, but Proportion of
>> Variance as you describe it may be confusing to new users. Am I correct in
>> saying Proportion of variance describes the amount of variance with respect
>> to the number of components the user chooses to show? So if I only choose
>> one I will explain 100% of the variance? I think showing 'Total Proportion
>> of Variance' is important if that is the case.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve Bronder
>> Website: stevebronder.com
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kasper Daniel Hansen <
>> kasperdanielhansen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Martin, I fully agree. This becomes an issue when you have big matrices.
>>>
>>> (Note that there are awesome methods for actually only computing a small
>>> number of PCs (unlike your code which uses svn which gets all of them);
>>> these are available in various CRAN packages).
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Kasper
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Martin Maechler <
>>> maechler at stat.math.ethz.ch
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Following from the R-help thread of March 22 on "Memory usage in prcomp",
>>>>
>>>> I've started looking into adding an optional 'rank.' argument
>>>> to prcomp allowing to more efficiently get only a few PCs
>>>> instead of the full p PCs, say when p = 1000 and you know you
>>>> only want 5 PCs.
>>>>
>>>> (https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2016-March/437228.html
>>>>
>>>> As it was mentioned, we already have an optional 'tol' argument
>>>> which allows *not* to choose all PCs.
>>>>
>>>> When I do that,
>>>> say
>>>>
>>>> C <- chol(S <- toeplitz(.9 ^ (0:31))) # Cov.matrix and its root
>>>> all.equal(S, crossprod(C))
>>>> set.seed(17)
>>>> X <- matrix(rnorm(32000), 1000, 32)
>>>> Z <- X %*% C ## ==> cov(Z) ~= C'C = S
>>>> all.equal(cov(Z), S, tol = 0.08)
>>>> pZ <- prcomp(Z, tol = 0.1)
>>>> summary(pZ) # only ~14 PCs (out of 32)
>>>>
>>>> I get for the last line, the summary.prcomp(.) call :
>>>>
>>>>> summary(pZ) # only ~14 PCs (out of 32)
>>>> Importance of components:
>>>> PC1 PC2 PC3 PC4 PC5 PC6
>>>> PC7 PC8
>>>> Standard deviation 3.6415 2.7178 1.8447 1.3943 1.10207 0.90922
>>> 0.76951
>>>> 0.67490
>>>> Proportion of Variance 0.4352 0.2424 0.1117 0.0638 0.03986 0.02713
>>> 0.01943
>>>> 0.01495
>>>> Cumulative Proportion 0.4352 0.6775 0.7892 0.8530 0.89288 0.92001
>>> 0.93944
>>>> 0.95439
>>>> PC9 PC10 PC11 PC12 PC13 PC14
>>>> Standard deviation 0.60833 0.51638 0.49048 0.44452 0.40326 0.3904
>>>> Proportion of Variance 0.01214 0.00875 0.00789 0.00648 0.00534 0.0050
>>>> Cumulative Proportion 0.96653 0.97528 0.98318 0.98966 0.99500 1.0000
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> which computes the *proportions* as if there were only 14 PCs in
>>>> total (but there were 32 originally).
>>>>
>>>> I would think that the summary should or could in addition show
>>>> the usual "proportion of variance explained" like result which
>>>> does involve all 32 variances or std.dev.s ... which are
>>>> returned from the svd() anyway, even in the case when I use my
>>>> new 'rank.' argument which only returns a "few" PCs instead of
>>>> all.
>>>>
>>>> Would you think the current summary() output is good enough or
>>>> rather misleading?
>>>>
>>>> I think I would want to see (possibly in addition) proportions
>>>> with respect to the full variance and not just to the variance
>>>> of those few components selected.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions?
>>>>
>>>> Martin Maechler
>>>> ETH Zurich
>>>>
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