[Rd] HoltWinters fitted level parameter not bounded between 0 (PR#11473)
david.meyer at wu-wien.ac.at
david.meyer at wu-wien.ac.at
Fri May 16 13:25:08 CEST 2008
I get John's value (48.8789) in 2.7.0 and R-devel (both on Ubuntu).
Really seems to be a numeric issue:
> HoltWinters(x, beta = 0, gamma = 0)$alpha
alpha
48.87989
> HoltWinters(x * 1.0000000001, beta = 0, gamma = 0)$alpha
alpha
0.6881547
> HoltWinters(x * 1.00000000001, beta = 0, gamma = 0)$alpha
alpha
48.87989
Providing starting values seems to help, but not always:
> HoltWinters(x, beta = 0, gamma = 0, l.start = 0.00001)$alpha
alpha
48.88999
> HoltWinters(x, beta = 0, gamma = 0, l.start = 0.0001)$alpha
alpha
0.6880582
Yes, it's easy to use optimize() instead of optim() in the univariate
cases, will do.
David.
Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
> It doesn't do it on my system (I get a value of about 0.688 in R 2.7.0
> patched on Linux), and 2.5.1 is not current. Does a better starting
> value help?
>
> However, HoltWinters is using optim() in a case it is not designed for
> (one-dimensional optimization): see the note on its help page. I think
> this could easily be changed, but as HoltWinters is contributed code I
> am Cc:ing the author for comment.
>
> On Fri, 16 May 2008, john.bodley at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Full_Name: John Bodley
>> Version: 2.5.1 (2007-06-27)
>> OS: Windows XP
>> Submission from: (NULL) (12.144.182.66)
>>
>>
>> I was fitting a number of time series in R using the
>> stats::HoltWinters method
>> to define a single exponential smoothing model, i.e., beta = gamma = 0.
>>
>> I came across an example where the fitted value of alpha was not
>> defined in the
>> [0, 1] interval which seems to violate the lower and upper bound
>> constraints
>> used for the optim method. On my computer the following code returns a
>> value of
>> 48.87989.
>>
>> R code:
>>
>> x <- c(
>> 0,
>> 0.000843170320404722,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0.0103773584905660,
>> 0.00832466181061394,
>> 0.0038560411311054,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0.00484966052376334,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0.00274348422496571,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0.0207064555420219,
>> 0.0334975369458128,
>> 0.0334975369458128,
>> 0.00338983050847458,
>> 0.00483675937122128,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0.00224971878515186,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0.00135685210312076,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0.0035377358490566,
>> 0.0035377358490566,
>> 0.00501002004008016,
>> 0.0107632093933464,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0.0143329658213892,
>> 0.0330459770114943,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0,
>> 0.0109890109890110,
>> 0,
>> 0.00118623962040332,
>> 0.007380073800738,
>> 0.00695410292072323,
>> 0.0104895104895105,
>> 0.00278551532033426,
>> 0.00278551532033426
>> );
>>
>> # Single exponential smoothing
>> m <- stats::HoltWinters(x, beta = 0, gamma = 0);
>> m$alpha
>>
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