[Rd] 'CanMakeUseOf' field
Kurt Hornik
Kurt.Hornik at wu-wien.ac.at
Wed Aug 30 11:03:49 CEST 2006
>>>>> Martin Maechler writes:
>>>>> "FrL" == friedrich leisch <friedrich.leisch at stat.uni-muenchen.de>
>>>>> on Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:34:13 +0200 (MEST) writes:
>>> Duncan Murdoch <murdoch at stats.uwo.ca> writes:
>>>> I think we need an option to R CMD check rather than a new field in the
>>>> DESCRIPTION. Currently a package could be mentioned for any of these
>>>> reasons:
>>>>
>>>> 1. To make functions, examples or vignettes work
>>>> 2. To allow optional functionality in functions, examples or vignettes.
>>>> 3. Because it contains complementary functions.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we really need to worry about 3: it should be contained
>>>> in 1 or 2, if reasonably complete examples are given.
>>>>
>>>> Case 1 is handled by Depends.
>>>
>>> I think there is an important distinction between a dependency needed
>>> for the package to function and a dependency needed to demonstrate
>>> said functionality via an example or vignette. The former is what
>>> Depends is about, the latter is something else (Suggests).
FrL> Sorry to join in late, I am at the Compstat conference and have limited
FrL> email access. What Seth describes in the above paragraph is exactly what I
FrL> had in mind when splitting the single Depends field we had into Depends
FrL> and Suggests: Depends are a necessity to run the package, Suggests is nice
FrL> to have but not necessary. If you know how to use a package you may the
FrL> decide not to install a package that is only suggested, but
FrL> * may not be interested to execute the examples,
FrL> * know that you never need the extra functionality
FrL> * ...
FrL> so it should not be auto-installed unless you ask for
FrL> it (the default could also be the other way round, the
FrL> point is that it should be possible to have package foo
FrL> but not the packages it only suggests). On CRAN we
FrL> check with all suggestions to test all bits and pieces,
FrL> having an option in R CMD check to test only with
FrL> suggests may be nice, if there is use for it.
> ...
> Further, I think "2)" above is not taken care of anyway.
> After all the interesting statements and alternative proposals,
> I'm still proposing to introduce a 'canUse' field for DESCRIPTION
> which
> a) has a "human-readable intent" of being weaker than 'Suggests'
> b) will not require its packages to be available for R CMD check
> c) conveys extra information about the package's context, to humans, and
> d) will potentially be used in automated or semi-manual
> ``R package database management''
Martin,
I don't think such info should be human-readable. It should be in a
standardized format so that we can have tools to compute on such
information. E.g., a simple subject-predicate-object model as used in
the W3C's semantic web.
I am slightly nervous about moving in this direction, though, as I think
it implies that repository maintainers deploy processes which validate
the semantics of the package metadata. But eventually we will have to
do this in any case.
-k
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