RFC: no automatic updates of packages with major version change
Torsten Hothorn
Torsten.Hothorn@rzmail.uni-erlangen.de
Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:24:51 +0100 (MET)
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk wrote:
> Torsten,
>
> I did suggest that test at an earlier stage in the discussions. But some
> packages have so few examples they may well pass and have repercussions.
>
ok, I see.
> I do think we need to address the problem: lattice_0.6-5 is another
> example of an API change.
>
> Now, we could throw the onus on the maintainers to add a
>
> BackwardsCompatible:FALSE
>
> flag to the DESCRIPTION file, if people really think that would be easier.
>
yes, that would be better than just assuming API changes in every major
release.
Torsten
> Brian
>
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Torsten Hothorn wrote:
>
> > >
> > > We (Kurt Hornik, Brian Ripley & I) want to propose the following
> > > change to the automatic package updating mechanisms of R: A major
> > > version number change of a package will by default disable the
> > > automatic updating of packages, because the interface of the package
> > > might have changed and hence old code might not run anymore.
> > >
> > > A recent example was the release of mclust version 2.0, which is not
> > > fully compatible with mclust 1.x (functions got removed, others added
> > > and arguments renamed etc).
> > >
> > > Of course it is absolutely OK for a package to change its API,
> > > otherwise improvements would be rather hard, but it should be easier
> > > for users to stay with the old version until they have figured out
> > > what exactly the effects of an upgrade would be.
> > >
> > > We want to define a "major version number change" as a change of the
> > > first digit of the version number, such that 1.1.1 -> 2.0.0 is a major
> > > change, while 1.1.1 -> 1.2.0 is not. An exception will be that a move
> > > from 0.x to 1.x is no major change (because the 0.x series is read as
> > > "working towards 1.0").
> > >
> >
> > This definition requires EVERY package maintainer to be VERY careful about
> > version numbers / API changes and I guess some of us (including me) may
> > fail this exercise.
> >
> > I suggest the following definition: the API of a package changed
> > iff the example code of the previous version of the package does not run
> > without an error. In contrast, the results of the computations may
> > differ. Of course, this induces additional effort to the CRAN maintainers
> > but it should be possible to extract and check the examples of a CRAN
> > package against a new version BEFORE uploading the new version to CRAN. In
> > addition, a flag `APIChange TRUE / FALSE' visible to `update.packages' is
> > needed.
> >
> > Or should this be part of R CMD check? Maybe R CMD check can download the
> > `official' release from CRAN to check against an API change and give a
> > warning?
> >
> > best,
> >
> > Torsten
> >
> > > In case of a major change
> > >
> > > *) update.packages() will warn the user if ask=TRUE, like
> > >
> > > mclust :
> > > Version 1.1-7 in /usr/local/lib/R-contrib
> > > Version 2.0-1 on CRAN
> > > WARNING: major version number change
> > > Update (y/N)?
> > >
> > > *) if ask=FALSE, update.packages() will cowardly refuse the updates
> > > and issue a warning for all packages that have not been updated.
> > >
> > > *) the same will be done for the methods working off packageStatus
> > > objects.
> > >
> > > Note that we are already working on new package management tools which
> > > should make it easier to have multiple versions of a package installed
> > > simultaneously.
> > >
> > > All comments are welcome.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Fritz
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