[ESS] Interest in scala support?

Vitalie Spinu spinuvit at gmail.com
Thu Oct 30 23:17:41 CET 2014

I agree with Rodney. You cannot develops something that you don't
use. We are already stuck with julia mode that none of the ess
developers seems to be systematically using.

Scala is general purpose language and to the best of my knowledge there
are no systematic noteworthy developments towards data analysis
(ignoring the java side). I also believe that such a big language must
have it's own interaction mode in emacs. Clojure has it, why doesn't
scala has one even though it's a much older language?


 >>> "Sparapani, Rodney" on Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:44:46 +0000 wrote:

 >> Hi All,
 >> I'm a 15 year emacs/statistics user (mainly R/Splus, some SAS), and our shop is getting ready to bring in
 >> scala as a data analysis tool (we'll be doing some performance testing against pbdr early next year if
 >> anybody is interested in hearing about that).
 >> Long story short, I would like to know if there's any interest in supporting scala in ESS.  I saw (1) there was
 >> some julia support (so I see at least one new language with REPL is in ESS) and (2) most of the scala IDEs (even
 >> the notebooks in intellij (better) and eclipse) aren't anywhere near as useful to me as a good old ESS
 >> session.  

 > <SNIP>

 >> Any thoughts?  (offline comments welcome: bchristian <at> pyaanalytics.com)  I ran the idea by Tony R, and he
 >> said it'd be best to start here and that he thought it was a good idea.
 >> Best,
 >> Blair

 > Hi Blair:

 > I see no one else bit, so I'll bite ;o)  Speaking personally as an ESS
 > developer, I have absolutely no interest in Scala which I had never
 > even heard of prior to your query:  and in Scala, I'm also including
 > all of the other OO languages that it shares philosophy with
 > (according to Wikipedia ;o) like Java, C#, Smalltalk, Haskell...

 > I am no expert on those things, but it seems to me they have their own
 > communities and you would be better off using what they use.  For example,
 > Java users have Eclipse.  In my opinion, ESS is for those forgotten
 > languages like R, SAS, Stata, etc. that the IDE developers have not
 > taken interest in (with recent exceptions excluded of course ;o)

 > Now, I'll admit that if you are an Emacs user, then I can see your
 > point.  Why can't I use Emacs for Scala?  It's a very fair question.
 > But, I don't see it in ESS; however, there are probably other modes
 > that would be a better fit.  There has been some loose talk about
 > supporting REPL in ESS.  But for the foreseeable future, it is just
 > talk.

 > Thanks,

 > Rodney

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