[ESS] ESS 13.05 release next week: beta testers welcome
Vitalie Spinu
spinuvit at gmail.com
Fri May 10 18:51:55 CEST 2013
Hi Chris,
Whatever system you are on, you have to make sure that (load "ess-site")
is called from the right location. For that, specify the full path
(load "full/path/to/ESS/lisp/ess-site.el")
That is all what is needed to beta test. Once you test, comment it out.
I have checked it out. ESS is loaded in Vincent's default.el and not
ess-start.el. So you should be fine when loading it in your init file.
Vitalie
>> Chris Evans <chrishold at psyctc.org>
>> on Fri, 10 May 2013 16:56:10 +0100 wrote:
> I can see that very ordinary lusers may not be what you want as beta testers but
> I wonder if it is possible to give luser level instructions on how to set up a
> Windoze system and a linux system so we could fairly easily use either the
> latest beta or the standard system (i.e. Vincent's for windoze and whatever
> comes with our linux distro for linux).
> I find myself mostly using ESS on Debian stable but sometimes using it in
> Windoze XP (in a VM). In Debian I use the really very far off the cutting edge
> distro supplied Emacs and ESS and in Windoze I use Vincent Goulet's
> distribution. I use ESS several times a week and sometimes for many hours doing
> quite a lot and I'd love to be able to set things up so that I had the beta as
> my default but could easily revert to the earlier set ups if I hit problems.
> I'm sure I ought to be able to follow the instructions in
> http://ess.r-project.org/Manual/ess.html#Latest-version to do this but I confess
> that I fall at the first hurdle:
> "If you remove other versions of ESS from your emacs load-path"
> OK. How do I do that? What is my "emacs load-path"? Is it easy for me to remove these in a way that I can easily reinstate them?
> I _think_ that this ought to be a very easy thing that could be covered by
> commenting out one line in ~/.emacs and adding a new line ("(load
> "/path/to/ess-svn/lisp/ess-site.el")" and using an anacron or chron line to make
> sure the SVN updates the beta into "/path/to/ess-svn/" on a regular basis but is
> it the same for Windoze? What about the issue of the default emacs in Debian
> perhaps being too old for the cutting edge version of ESS (did I imagine that or
> is that true?)
> Would some guru tell those of us who'd like to contribute as beta testers if there is an easy way to get a daily updated beta AND a fairly easy switch back to an old version?
> TIA,
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Vitalie Spinu" <spinuvit at gmail.com>
>> To: "Brian Diggs" <diggsb at ohsu.edu>
>> Cc: "ESS" <ess-help at stat.math.ethz.ch>
>> Sent: Thursday, 9 May, 2013 9:25:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ESS] ESS 13.05 release next week: beta testers welcome
>>
>>
>> As far as I could remember Vincent's distribution sets and loads ESS
>> prior to the loading of user .emacs file. The file is called
>> site-start. You have to edit that one to point to a new location.
>>
>> I guess Vincent's distribution is not really intended for beta
>> testers:)
>>
>> Vitalie
>>
>>
>> >> Brian Diggs <diggsb at ohsu.edu>
>> >> on Thu, 9 May 2013 13:05:51 -0700 wrote:
>>
>> > On 5/9/2013 6:27 AM, Rodney Sparapani wrote:
>> >> Hi!
>> >>
>> >> We, the developers of ESS, are planning to release ESS 13.05 next
>> >> week.
>> >> This is a good time for the brave beta testers among you to try
>> >> it out.
>> >> You can find out how to install the development version at
>> >> http://ess.r-project.org/index.php?Section=download>> >> There are several new/improved features which you can see at
>> >> http://ess.r-project.org/Manual/ess.html#New-features>> >> Two of the new/improved features in particular are ElDoc and
>> >> tracebug.
>> >> You can find more information about ElDoc at
>> >> http://ess.r-project.org/Manual/ess.html#ESS-ElDoc>> >> Note that you can turn off ElDoc, by placing this in your
>> >> ~/.emacs
>> >> file {prior to (require 'ess-site) }:
>> >> (setq ess-use-eldoc nil)
>> >>
>> >> You can find more information about tracebug at
>> >> http://ess.r-project.org/Manual/ess.html#ESS-tracebug>> >> You can toggle tracebug off/on via issuing the following command:
>> >> M-x ess-tracebug
>> >>
>> >> If you find any problems, then please report them here. Thanks
>>
>> > I thought I'd try the development version to see if some of
>> > problems I've been
>> > having are fixed, but I am having problems even getting it to a
>> > point where I
>> > can test it.
>>
>> > I am using Vincent Goulet's modified emacs distribution for
>> > Windows
>>
>> > GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2012-08-28 on MARVIN
>>
>> > (Is there a way of determining within emacs what the "modified"
>> > version is? I
>> > think I'm using eamcs-24.2-modified-7, but I'm not sure how to
>> > verify that.)
>>
>> > I've cloned a copy of the git repository into ~/.emacs.d/site-lisp
>> > so it is in
>> > the ESS directory there. I put
>>
>> > (setq load-path
>> > (append '("~/.emacs.d/site-lisp/")
>> > load-path))
>> > ;; where the development git checkout resides
>> > (setq load-path
>> > (append '("~/.emacs.d/site-lisp/ESS/")
>> > load-path))
>>
>> > at the top of my .emacs file. [I don't know if I need both of
>> > those or not; my
>> > emacs hacking skills are not that great.] However, I still seem to
>> > be getting
>> > the version of ess which comes with the distribution; ess-version
>> > gives
>>
>> > ess-version : 12.09-2 [rev. 5395 (2013-01-10)]
>>
>> > I don't want to replace ess that comes with the distribution (in
>> > c:/Program
>> > Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/site-lisp/ess/) because I want to
>> > easily revert back
>> > to a "good" version when I'm not testing.
>>
>> > If it is useful, here is the value of load-path
>>
>> > ("c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/site-lisp/auctex"
>> > "c:/Program Files
>> > (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/site-lisp/ess/" "~/.emacs.d/site-lisp/ESS/"
>> > "~/.emacs.d/site-lisp/" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs
>> > 24.2/site-lisp"
>> > "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/site-lisp/ess" "c:/Program
>> > Files
>> > (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/site-lisp/org" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU
>> > Emacs
>> > 24.2/site-lisp/site-start.d" "C:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs
>> > 24.2/../site-lisp" "C:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/lisp"
>> > "c:/Program
>> > Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/lisp/vc" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU
>> > Emacs
>> > 24.2/lisp/url" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs
>> > 24.2/lisp/textmodes"
>> > "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/lisp/progmodes" "c:/Program
>> > Files
>> > (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/lisp/play" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs
>> > 24.2/lisp/org"
>> > "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/lisp/nxml" "c:/Program
>> > Files (x86)/GNU
>> > Emacs 24.2/lisp/net" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs
>> > 24.2/lisp/mh-e"
>> > "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/lisp/mail" "c:/Program
>> > Files (x86)/GNU
>> > Emacs 24.2/lisp/language" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs
>> > 24.2/lisp/international" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs
>> > 24.2/lisp/gnus"
>> > "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/lisp/eshell" "c:/Program
>> > Files (x86)/GNU
>> > Emacs 24.2/lisp/erc" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs
>> > 24.2/lisp/emulation"
>> > "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/lisp/emacs-lisp"
>> > "c:/Program Files
>> > (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/lisp/cedet" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs
>> > 24.2/lisp/calendar" "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs
>> > 24.2/lisp/calc"
>> > "c:/Program Files (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/lisp/obsolete" "C:/Program
>> > Files
>> > (x86)/GNU Emacs 24.2/leim")
>>
>> > I don't know what is causing the "wrong" ess to be found. I tried
>> > eliminating
>> > everything in my .emacs file except those load-path adjustments,
>> > but that didn't
>> > help. What is the right way to do this?
>>
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