[ESS] Automatic insertion of space after comma in iESS mode

Heinz Tuechler tuechler at gmx.at
Mon Jan 23 16:39:24 CET 2012

Dear Vitalie,

using an archaic ESS version I am not immediately 
concerned, but generally I support the idea to make smart features switchable.
As long as I use different programs, automatic 
smartness is very confusing, at least for me. I 
like spaces after commas not only in ESS, and for 
me it's easier to always type them than to 
remember, which program requires them and which inserts them automatically.
Of course, thank you for offering smart features. 
I agree with Rich that ess-smartification functions could be very helpful.

best thanks,


At 23.01.2012 10:12 -0500, Richard M. Heiberger wrote:
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>I tend to agree with the original poster.  It is a great feature, and I
>personally insist on space after comma.
>My fingers know that, and I would probably trip on it too.  I remember the
>fuss that was raised when we
>first introduced smart underscore (" <- ").  Several people objected
>strongly.  I think this new feature also needs
>a variable that can turn it off.
>This suggests another new feature.  We currently have a family of
>indentation functions (indent-region, etc).
>Can you write a new family of ess-smartification functions that will allow
>the user to go back and apply all
>of the new smart key options to  the region?  This I would use.  For
>example, if someone sends to R-help
>a line of the form "y<-abcd(d,e,f,g)", the new capability would convert it
>"y <- abcd(d, e, f, g)"
>I am less clear about the IDO menu in inferior mode.  My sense (not yet
>having tried it), is that is would interfere
>with my thought pattern.  We had some simliar pop-up hint option and it
>drive me nuts until I turned it off.
>Windows does lots of that type of interference, by popping open new windows
>in the middle of typing and the keystrokes
>go to the wrong place.  Even gmail has it.  I am merrily typing an email
>and it does an auto-save and moves the cursor
>while doing so and loses my place.
>On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Aleksandar Blagotić <aca.blagotic at gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > After recent upgrade I noticed that ESS inserts space after comma by
> > > default, which is really frustrating, especially because I tend to insert
> > > space manually, and end up with two spaces after comma, which is quite
> > > ugly. I can't seem to find a variable that holds reference to this
> > feature.
> > > Any ideas?
> >
> > This is a new feature, and is called ess-smart-comma. First it's a first
> > step towards  ess-smart-operators which is intended to be much smarter
> > and R specific than well known smart-operators package.
> >
> > Second it does something more in inferior. If the first key pressed in
> > inferior is ","  you will get an IDO menu with plenty of handy
> > commands. This is inspired by SLIME.
> >
> > I make a variable to deactivate the space insertion,  but may be you
> > should consider changing your habits?
> >
> > Vitalie.
> >
> > >
> > > aL3xa
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