[ESS] [R] ESS and Emacs

Martin Maechler maechler at stat.math.ethz.ch
Sat Dec 31 17:11:31 CET 2005


>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Leeds <Mleeds at kellogggroup.com>
>>>>>     on Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:49:42 -0500 writes:

    Mark> Hi Rodney : I am a novice and I appreciate your
    Mark> response but what does RSN mean ? 

"Real Soon Now"  (``standard computer slang'').

    Mark> Is there a way around this xargs problem.

{{ well, not working with Xemacs, since Rodney mentioned it was
  a recent Xemacs bug :-) }}
 
    Mark> Kapser Daniel was also kind enough to write me a long
    Mark> explanation on how to install ESS and Emacs but I
    Mark> haven't looked at it carefully yet ( it takes me a
    Mark> while to get going on Saturday ) so I am not sure if
    Mark> he addresses this problem but I'll let you know.

He addresses it indirectly: By using GNU emacs instead of
Xemacs.  But of course, that may be a major decision you don't
want to take, but rather find a fix for the Xemacs problem.

Otherwise, Kasper's instructions look useful to me; and it would
be great if "nebies" like you tried them and reported if it was
easy to understand, ask back if there are things still not
clear, etc etc;  so we could get a nice set of instructions for
       "Installing Emacs + ESS  on  Windows for dummies"   (;-)

Happy New Year to everyone!

Martin

 
    Mark> It's so appreciated that experts like yourselves
    Mark> respond like this. I am very bad with this
    Mark> installation stuff and had to work up the courage to
    Mark> even attempt it.  Now that I have, I don't want to
    Mark> give up.  Thanks a lot.
 
    Mark>                              Mark
 
 
    Mark> -----Original Message----- From: Rodney Sparapani
    Mark> [mailto:rsparapa at hpi.mcw.edu] Sent: Saturday, December
    Mark> 31, 2005 12:23 AM To: Mark Leeds; A.J. Rossini Cc:
    Mark> ess-help at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: RE: [ESS] [R] ESS
    Mark> and Emacs
 
    Mark> The xargs problem was a recent addition to XEmacs.
    Mark> XEmacs version 21.4.19 fixes this problem and should
    Mark> be released RSN, so check it out.

    Mark> Happy Holidays,

    Mark> Rodney

    Mark> -----Original Message----- From:
    Mark> ess-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch on behalf of Mark
    Mark> Leeds Sent: Fri 12/30/2005 4:31 PM To: A.J. Rossini
    Mark> Cc: ess-help at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [ESS] [R]
    Mark> ESS and Emacs

    Mark> Hi Mr. Rossini : I took the liberties of putting the
    Mark> load command inside my Rinit.el file and have Rinit.el
    Mark> as the target of my Xemacs icon ( see John Fox
    Mark> directions for how to do that ).

    Mark> Things definitely happen which is a good sign that I
    Mark> never had before but they go so fast on the bottom of
    Mark> the emacs page ( I think one of them is "loading
    Mark> cus-face" but I can't be sure. I've tried running it
    Mark> atleast 20 times to see if I can see what it says but
    Mark> I can't ) but then , after about a second or two of
    Mark> loading stuff, it gives an error :

    Mark> "Searching for program : No such file or directory,
    Mark> xargs".

    Mark> Given that I don't know Lisp, maybe I should give up
    Mark> unless this error means anything to you or anyone
    Mark> else.  Basically, I can't tell where it's bombing
    Mark> because I have no clue about Lisp. Thanks.

    Mark>                     Mark







    Mark> -----Original Message----- From: A.J. Rossini
    Mark> [mailto:blindglobe at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December
    Mark> 30, 2005 11:37 AM To: John Fox Cc: R-Stat Help; Mark
    Mark> Leeds; ESS-help at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R]
    Mark> [ESS] ESS and Emacs

    Mark> Whoops, sorry John.  In the last few months, we took
    Mark> off the XEmacs packaged ESS since it wasn't keeping up
    Mark> very well with the tarball, due to complications,
    Mark> mis-matched release schedules/requirements, and the
    Mark> like.

    Mark> It now needs to be installed from tarball, though
    Mark> there is some help for that, I believe.  (someone
    Mark> remind me what it is!).

    Mark> On 12/30/05, John Fox <jfox at mcmaster.ca> wrote:
    >> Dear Paul and Mark,
    >> 
    >> I've just taken a look at the current XEmacs setup
    >> program for
    Mark> Windows, and
    >> it has changed significantly since the document to which
    >> you referred
    Mark> was
    >> last updated (about a year ago). In particular, the
    >> XEmacs setup no
    Mark> longer
    >> gives you the option to install all packages, as I
    >> recommended. Among
    Mark> these
    >> is ess, which is not in the small set of packages that
    >> XEmacs
    Mark> currently
    >> installs, nor does ess seem to be available via the
    >> packages tool in
    Mark> XEmacs.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> I'm copying this response to the ESS help list, and will
    >> remove the XEmacs/ESS document on my web site so that
    >> people aren't further
    Mark> misled.
    >>  Sorry for the problem, John
    >> 
    >> --------------------------------
    >> John Fox Department of Sociology McMaster University
    >> Hamilton, Ontario Canada L8S 4M4 905-525-9140x23604
    >> http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox
    >> --------------------------------
    >> 
    >> > -----Original Message----- > From:
    >> r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch >
    >> [mailto:r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of
    >> paul sorenson > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:51
    >> PM > To: Mark Leeds > Cc: R-Stat Help > Subject: Re: [R]
    >> ESS and Emacs
    >> >
    >> > I tried it with XEmacs on Win XP and I had to install
    >> ESS
    Mark> separately.
    >> > > Mark Leeds wrote: > > I have been using the document
    >> written by John Fox titled Sn > > Introduction to ESS +
    >> XEmacs for Windows Users of R.
    >> > >
    >> > > It's a very nice document and > > I went through it
    >> carefully but I got > > an error when I finished it and
    >> launched XEmacs.
    >> > >
    >> > > The error is "cannot open load file : ess-site".
    >> > >
    >> > > So, I did more investigation > > and it seems like
    >> there is a folder
    >> > >
    >> > > Program Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ess
    >> > >
    >> > > that should have been created when > > I downloaded
    >> XEmacs but it doesn't exist.  > > There is a folder
    >> called efs ( rather than ess ) but I don't think > >
    >> that's it.
    >> > >
    >> > > I tried installing XEmacs again but the same thing
    >> happened.
    >> > >
    >> > > Does anyone know anything about this ?  > > I am
    >> using Windows NT.  > > Thanks.
    >> > >
    >> > > Mark
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> >
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    Mark> -- best, -tony

    Mark> blindglobe at gmail.com Muttenz, Switzerland.  "Commit
    Mark> early,commit often, and commit in a repository from
    Mark> which we can easily roll-back your mistakes" (AJR,
    Mark> 4Jan05).

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