[BioC] [Bioc-devel] granges() method for GenomicRanges objects akin to ranges()...

Julian Gehring julian.gehring at embl.de
Tue May 13 10:15:44 CEST 2014


Hi,

In summary, would it be feasible to add to 'GenomicRanges'?

1) A 'granges(x, use.mcols=FALSE, ...)' method with signature 'GRanges' 
that converts to a 'GRanges' object and optionally drops the mcols (if 
'use.mcols' is TRUE)

2) A 'dropMcols' or 'dropmcols' method with signature 'GRanges' that is 
a wrapper for
   mcols(x) <- NULL

If I can be of help in providing a patch for this, please let me know.

Best wishes
Julian



On 05.05.2014 23:29, Hervé Pagès wrote:
> On 05/05/2014 02:12 PM, Cook, Malcolm wrote:
>>> On 05/05/2014 01:00 PM, Cook, Malcolm wrote:
>>   >> Wondering,
>>   >>
>>   >> Is it too off the beaten track to expect
>>   >>
>>   >> `mcols<-`(x,NULL)
>>   >
>>   >   > args(`mcols<-`)
>>   >   function (x, ..., value)
>>   >
>>   >Arguments after the ellipsis must be named:
>>   >
>>   >   `mcols<-`(x, value=NULL)
>>
>> Herve - Great - of course - so - does this not provide the means
>> requested by the original poster?
>
> I think Tim also wanted 'x' to be downgraded to a GRanges instance,
> like Julian's grangesPlain() does. We could use granges() for that.
>
> Deciding of an idiom that can be used inline for just dropping the
> mcols would be good too. `mcols<-`(x, value=NULL) is a little bit
> tricky, ugly, and error prone as you noticed. These are probably
> enough reasons for not choosing it as *the* idiom. Its only advantage
> is that it doesn't introduce a new symbol.
>
> H.
>
>>
>>   >
>>   >Nothing we can do about this.
>>   >
>>   >Cheers,
>>   >H.
>>   >
>>   >>
>>   >> to work?
>>   >>
>>   >> hint: it does not
>>   >>
>>   >>   >-----Original Message-----
>>   >>   >From: bioc-devel-bounces at r-project.org
>> [mailto:bioc-devel-bounces at r-project.org] On Behalf Of Hervé Pagès
>>   >>   >Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:28 PM
>>   >>   >To: Kasper Daniel Hansen; Michael Lawrence
>>   >>   >Cc: Johnston, Jeffrey; ttriche at usc.edu;
>> bioc-devel at r-project.org; bioconductor at r-project.org
>>   >>   >Subject: Re: [Bioc-devel] [BioC] granges() method for
>> GenomicRanges objects akin to ranges()...
>>   >>   >
>>   >>   >Hi,
>>   >>   >
>>   >>   >I have no problem using granges() for that. Just to clarify:
>>   >>   >   (a) it would propagate the names()
>>   >>   >   (b) it would drop the metadata()
>>   >>   >   (c) the mcols() would propagate only if 'use.mcols=TRUE' was
>>   >>   >       specified ('use.mcols' is FALSE by default)
>>   >>   >   (d) it would return a GRanges *instance* i.e. input object 'x'
>>   >>   >       would be downgraded to GRanges if it extends GRanges
>>   >>   >
>>   >>   >@Kasper: granges() on SummarizedExperiment ignores the
>> 'use.mcols'
>>   >>   >arg and always propagates the mcols. Alternatively you can use
>> rowData()
>>   >>   >which also propagates the mcols. granges() is actually just an
>> alias
>>   >>   >for rowData() on SummarizedExperiment objects.
>>   >>   >
>>   >>   >H.
>>   >>   >
>>   >>   >
>>   >>   >On 05/05/2014 10:31 AM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote:
>>   >>   >> I agree with Michael on this.
>>   >>   >>
>>   >>   >> I can see why, in some usage cases, granges() is convenient
>> to have with
>>   >>   >> use.mcols=FALSE (which seems to have been added in the
>> latest release).
>>   >>   >>   But in my usage of granges(), where I call granges() on
>> objects like
>>   >>   >> SummarizedExperiments and friends, I have been expecting
>> granges() to give
>>   >>   >> me the GRange component of the object.  Not a crippled
>> version of the
>>   >>   >> GRange component.
>>   >>   >>
>>   >>   >> This is - to me - very counter intuitive and I wish I had
>> seen this
>>   >>   >> earlier.  It is particular frustrating that this default is
>> part of the
>>   >>   >> generic.
>>   >>   >>
>>   >>   >> Best,
>>   >>   >> Kasper
>>   >>   >>
>>   >>   >>
>>   >>   >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Michael Lawrence
>> <lawrence.michael at gene.com
>>   >>   >>> wrote:
>>   >>   >>
>>   >>   >>> In my opinion, granges() is not very clear as to the
>> intent. The mcols are
>>   >>   >>> part of the GRanges, so why would calling granges() drop
>> them? I think we
>>   >>   >>> want something similar to unclass(), unname(), etc. This
>> why I suggested
>>   >>   >>> dropmcols().
>>   >>   >>>
>>   >>   >>>
>>   >>   >>>
>>   >>   >>>
>>   >>   >>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Tim Triche, Jr.
>> <tim.triche at gmail.com
>>   >>   >>>> wrote:
>>   >>   >>>
>>   >>   >>>> That's exactly what I was after -- the generic is already
>> defined, so why
>>   >>   >>>> not use it?
>>   >>   >>>>
>>   >>   >>>> --t
>>   >>   >>>>
>>   >>   >>>>> On May 5, 2014, at 7:42 AM, Julian Gehring
>> <julian.gehring at embl.de>
>>   >>   >>>> wrote:
>>   >>   >>>>>
>>   >>   >>>>> Hi,
>>   >>   >>>>>
>>   >>   >>>>>> On 05.05.2014 16:22, Martin Morgan wrote:
>>   >>   >>>>>> generalize as setMcols, like setNames? setMcols(x, NULL)
>>   >>   >>>>>
>>   >>   >>>>> How about Tim's original suggestion, to add a 'granges'
>> method that
>>   >>   >>>> works on a 'GRanges' input?  The current definition
>>   >>   >>>>>
>>   >>   >>>>> granges(x, use.mcols=FALSE, ...)
>>   >>   >>>>>
>>   >>   >>>>> seem suited for this.
>>   >>   >>>>>
>>   >>   >>>>> Best wishes
>>   >>   >>>>> Julian
>>   >>   >>>>
>>   >>   >>>
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