[BioC] error installing Rgraphviz

Dan Tenenbaum dtenenba at fhcrc.org
Mon May 28 23:12:44 CEST 2012 

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mark Miller
<mark.wayne.miller at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> When I click on "C:\Program Files\R\R-2.15\bin\i386\R.exe" R opens in a
> command window as a command-line program.  I have never used R that way.
>
> When I installed R I think it installs both 32-bit and 64-bit versions and
> places desktop icons for both versions.  I just remove the desktop icon for
> the 32-bit version.  Would it be okay if I re-install R and try running the
> 32-bit version from the desktop icon?  Do you think Rgraphviz would work
> that way?  Or must the 32-bit version of R operate from a command window for
> Rgraphviz to function?
>
> I am sure the 32-bit version is still installed on my machine.  I just do
> not know how to open the GUI I am used to without the desktop icon present
> given that clicking on R.exe above opened a command window.
>

Try:
C:\Program Files\R\R-2.15\bin\i386\Rgui.exe

Now try

library(Rgraphviz)

Does it work?

You don't need to reinstall R. Just right click on Rgui.exe and make a
desktop shortcut, an use that to access R from now on.
Dan


> Mark
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Dan Tenenbaum <dtenenba at fhcrc.org> wrote:
>>
>> [cc'ing Bioconductor again]
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Mark Miller
>> <mark.wayne.miller at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dan,
>> >
>> > Just saw your earlier request for sessioninfo().
>> >
>> > I have never used that command before, but here is the output when I
>> > just
>> > tried it.
>> >
>> > The result when I type:
>> >
>> > C:\>neato -V
>> >
>> > is:
>> >
>> > neato - Graphviz version 2.20.3 (Wed Oct 8 06:02:12 UTC 2008)
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > R version 2.15.0 (2012-03-30)
>> > Copyright (C) 2012 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing
>> > ISBN 3-900051-07-0
>> > Platform: x86_64-pc-mingw32/x64 (64-bit)
>> >
>> > R is free software and comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
>> > You are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.
>> > Type 'license()' or 'licence()' for distribution details.
>> >
>> >   Natural language support but running in an English locale
>> >
>> > R is a collaborative project with many contributors.
>> > Type 'contributors()' for more information and
>> > 'citation()' on how to cite R or R packages in publications.
>> >
>> > Type 'demo()' for some demos, 'help()' for on-line help, or
>> > 'help.start()' for an HTML browser interface to help.
>> > Type 'q()' to quit R.
>> >
>> >> source("http://bioconductor.org/biocLite.R")
>> > BiocInstaller version 1.4.4, ?biocLite for help
>> >> biocLite("Rgraphviz")
>> > BioC_mirror: http://bioconductor.org
>> > Using R version 2.15, BiocInstaller version 1.4.4.
>> > Installing package(s) 'Rgraphviz'
>> > trying URL
>> >
>> > 'http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/2.10/bioc/bin/windows/contrib/2.15/Rgraphviz_1.34.0.zip'
>> > Content type 'application/zip' length 936601 bytes (914 Kb)
>> > opened URL
>> > downloaded 914 Kb
>> >
>> > package ‘Rgraphviz’ successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked
>> >
>> > The downloaded binary packages are in
>> >         C:\Users\Mark W
>> > Miller\AppData\Local\Temp\RtmpyQNH4k\downloaded_packages
>> > Warning message:
>> > installed directory not writable, cannot update packages 'foreign',
>> > 'MASS',
>> >   'mgcv', 'nlme', 'survival'
>> >> library('Rgraphviz')
>> > Loading required package: graph
>> > Loading required package: grid
>> > Error : .onLoad failed in loadNamespace() for 'Rgraphviz', details:
>> >   call: value[[3L]](cond)
>> >   error: unable to load shared object 'C:/Users/Mark W
>> > Miller/Documents/R/win-library/2.15/Rgraphviz/libs/x64/Rgraphviz.dll':
>> >   LoadLibrary failure:  %1 is not a valid Win32 application.
>> >
>> >
>> >   Check that (1) graphviz is installed on your system; (2) the
>> >   installed version of graphviz matches '2.20.3'; this is the version
>> >   used to build this Rgraphviz package; (3) graphviz is accessible to
>> >   R, e.g., the path to the graphviz 'bin' directory is in the system
>> >   'PATH' variable.  See additional instructions in the 'README' file of
>> >   the Rgraphviz 'source' distribution, available at
>> >
>> >   http://bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/Rgraphviz.html
>> >
>> >   Ask further questions on the Bioconductor mailing list
>> >
>> >   http://bioconductor.org/docs/mailList.html
>> >
>> >
>> > Error: package/namespace load failed for ‘Rgraphviz’
>> >> sessionInfo()
>> > R version 2.15.0 (2012-03-30)
>> > Platform: x86_64-pc-mingw32/x64 (64-bit)
>> >
>> > locale:
>> > [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252  LC_CTYPE=English_United
>> > States.1252    LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252
>> > [4] LC_NUMERIC=C                           LC_TIME=English_United
>> > States.1252
>> >
>> > attached base packages:
>> > [1] grid      stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods
>> > base
>> >
>> > other attached packages:
>> > [1] graph_1.34.0        BiocInstaller_1.4.4
>> >
>> > loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
>> > [1] BiocGenerics_0.2.0 stats4_2.15.0      tools_2.15.0
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> It looks like you are running 64-bit R. Try running 32-bit R by executing:
>>
>> "C:\Program Files\R\R-2.15\bin\i386\R.exe"
>>
>> Does that work?
>>
>> If you don't really need to be running 64-bit R, then just use 32-bit
>> R with Rgraphviz.
>> If you really want to use 64-bit R woth Rgraphviz, install this file:
>>
>> http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/pub/Rtools/goodies/Win64No_/graphviz64.zip
>>
>> Unzip it in some directory, say c:\graphviz64, then remove the
>> existing graphviz\bin directory from your PATH and add
>> c:\graphviz64\bin. Note that this is not a full version of graphviz,
>> just enough to support Rgraphviz.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Dan Tenenbaum <dtenenba at fhcrc.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Mark Miller
>> >> <mark.wayne.miller at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks, Dan.
>> >> >
>> >> > Unfortunately, that does not solve the problem.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Are you getting the same error message? What is the output of R's
>> >> sessionInfo()
>> >> command?
>> >>
>> >> What happens if you type:
>> >>
>> >>  neato -V
>> >>
>> >> at a Windows command prompt?
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Mark
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Dan Tenenbaum <dtenenba at fhcrc.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [cc'ing bioconductor list so others can benefit from this]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Mark Miller
>> >> >> <mark.wayne.miller at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hi Dan,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thank you for the reply.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Below is my current PATH statement:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows
>> >> >> > Live;C:\Program
>> >> >> > Files
>> >> >> > (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program
>> >> >> > Files\Dell\DW
>> >> >> > WLAN Card;;C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD APP\bin\x86_64;C:\Program
>> >> >> > Files
>> >> >> > (x86)\AMD
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > APP\bin\x86;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program
>> >> >> > Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static;C:\Program
>> >> >> > Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\;C:\Program
>> >> >> > Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth
>> >> >> > Software\syswow64;C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows
>> >> >> > Live\Shared;c:\MinGW\bin;C:\Program Files (x86)\Graphviz2.20
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The directory that should be in your PATH is:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> C:\Program Files (x86)\Graphviz2.20\bin
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (note the \bin at the end). That is where the DLL is located that
>> >> >> Rgraphviz is complaining about, as well as other files it needs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > You are correct that I had misspelled 'Graphviz' earlier.  I think
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > spelled it correctly now.  I tried to check whether that was the
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > by
>> >> >> > first correcting the spelling in the PATH statement and then
>> >> >> > trying
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > re-install Rgraphviz.  However, I still received errors.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Next I uninstalled Graphviz.  I noted that I had to manually
>> >> >> > remove
>> >> >> > Graphviz
>> >> >> > from the PATH statement.  Then I re-installed Graphviz and added
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > back
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > the PATH statement.  I still receive the pop-up error message
>> >> >> > described
>> >> >> > earlier after re-installing Rgraphviz.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In between uninstalling and re-installing or between correcting,
>> >> >> > removing
>> >> >> > and adding text to the PATH statement I performed frequent reboots
>> >> >> > followed
>> >> >> > by use of the 'echo %PATH%' command statement to check the PATH.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You do not need to reboot your machine after chaning the PATH. You
>> >> >> just need to close and reopen the command prompt window.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I think this covers your earlier suggestions.  Sorry if I
>> >> >> > overlooked
>> >> >> > any.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I was hoping to install Rgraphviz because I was hoping to explore
>> >> >> > R's
>> >> >> > ability to act as a GIS system and a reference book on the subject
>> >> >> > used
>> >> >> > Rgraphviz in at least one example file.  I do not know how
>> >> >> > frequently
>> >> >> > Rgraphviz is used by that reference, so I do not yet know how
>> >> >> > critical
>> >> >> > Rgraphviz will be for me in pursuing that exploration.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regardless, thank you for your help.  Let me know if I can provide
>> >> >> > additional useful information.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If the above suggestions do not help, please send the output of the
>> >> >> sessionInfo() command. I'm wondering if you are running 32- or
>> >> >> 64-bit
>> >> >> R. If 64, then you'll need to install a different version of
>> >> >> Graphviz.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dan
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Mark
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Dan Tenenbaum
>> >> >> > <dtenenba at fhcrc.org>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi Mark,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Mark Miller
>> >> >> >> <mark.wayne.miller at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > I am attempting to install the package 'Rgraphviz' in R version
>> >> >> >> > 2.15.0
>> >> >> >> > on a
>> >> >> >> > PC running Windows 7, Platform: x86_64-pc-mingw32/x64 (64-bit).
>> >> >> >> >  However,
>> >> >> >> > when I type 'library('Rgraphviz')' I keep getting a pop-up
>> >> >> >> > error
>> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> > stating 'DP_LocalAvatar: Rgui.exe - System Error' 'The program
>> >> >> >> > can't
>> >> >> >> > start
>> >> >> >> > because libcdt-4.dll is missing from your computer. Try
>> >> >> >> > reinstalling
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > program to fix the problem.' Within R I get an error message
>> >> >> >> > stating
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > there is no package 'Rgraphviz'.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I installed Graphviz using a file called
>> >> >> >> > 'graphviz-2.20.3.1.msi'
>> >> >> >> > which I
>> >> >> >> > believe I downloaded from the link in an R post found here:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/Rgraphviz-install-td878526.html
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The actual link within the above R post was:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > http://www.graphviz.org/pub/graphviz/stable/windows/graphviz-2.20.3.1.msi
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The directory to Graphviz on my computer is 'c:\Program Files
>> >> >> >> > (x86)\Graphviz2.20' and the file 'libcdt-4.dll' is located in
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > folder
>> >> >> >> > 'c:\Program Files (x86)\Graphviz2.20\bin'.  The following
>> >> >> >> > appears
>> >> >> >> > at
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > end of my path statement 'Program Files (x86)\Graphvis2.20\bin'
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > also
>> >> >> >> > displayed when I type 'C:\echo %PATH%' in a command window.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Can you send the full output of the echo %PATH% command?
>> >> >> >> Note that "Graphviz" is mis-spelled above. Could that be the
>> >> >> >> problem?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Also note that if you set your PATH in Control Panel, you need to
>> >> >> >> start a new command window after making the change, because the
>> >> >> >> change
>> >> >> >> will not be reflected in any currently open command windows.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > The directory to R on my computer is 'c:\Program
>> >> >> >> > Files\R\R-2.15.0\'.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > When I try to install 'Rgraphviz' I get the following messages
>> >> >> >> > within
>> >> >> >> > R:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> source("http://bioconductor.org/biocLite.R")
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > BiocInstaller version 1.4.4, ?biocLite for help
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> biocLite("Rgraphviz")
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > BioC_mirror: http://bioconductor.org
>> >> >> >> > Using R version 2.15, BiocInstaller version 1.4.4.
>> >> >> >> > Installing package(s) 'Rgraphviz'
>> >> >> >> > trying URL '
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/2.10/bioc/bin/windows/contrib/2.15/Rgraphviz_1.34.0.zip
>> >> >> >> > '
>> >> >> >> > Content type 'application/zip' length 936601 bytes (914 Kb)
>> >> >> >> > opened URL
>> >> >> >> > downloaded 914 Kb
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > package ‘Rgraphviz’ successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The downloaded binary packages are in
>> >> >> >> >        C:\Users\Mark W
>> >> >> >> > Miller\AppData\Local\Temp\Rtmpqyh1A3\downloaded_packages
>> >> >> >> > Warning message:
>> >> >> >> > installed directory not writable, cannot update packages
>> >> >> >> > 'foreign',
>> >> >> >> > 'MASS',
>> >> >> >> >  'mgcv', 'nlme', 'survival'
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The file 'Rgraphviz_1.34.0.zip' is placed in 'C:\Users\Mark W
>> >> >> >> > Miller\AppData\Local\Temp\Rtmpqyh1A3\downloaded_packages' and
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > package
>> >> >> >> > 'Rgraphviz' does not appear in the R library in 'c:\Program
>> >> >> >> > Files\R\R-2.15.0\library'.  Rather 'Rgraphviz' appears in
>> >> >> >> > 'C:\users\Mark
>> >> >> >> > W
>> >> >> >> > Miller\Documents\R\win-library\2.15'
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> This is ok.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > I have copied and pasted the 'Rgraphviz' folder from
>> >> >> >> > 'C:\users\Mark W
>> >> >> >> > Miller\Documents\R\win-library\2.15' into 'C:\Program
>> >> >> >> > Files\R\R-2.15.0\library\'.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You do not need to do this.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Then inside R I type 'library('Rgraphviz')' and get the
>> >> >> >> > following
>> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> > in a pop-up window:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 'DP_LocalAvatar: Rgui.exe - System Error' 'The program can't
>> >> >> >> > start
>> >> >> >> > because
>> >> >> >> > libcdt-4.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > program
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > fix the problem.'
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > and the following messages within R:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> library('Rgraphviz')
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Loading required package: graph
>> >> >> >> > Loading required package: grid
>> >> >> >> > Error : .onLoad failed in loadNamespace() for 'Rgraphviz',
>> >> >> >> > details:
>> >> >> >> >  call: value[[3L]](cond)
>> >> >> >> >  error: unable to load shared object 'C:/Users/Mark W
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Miller/Documents/R/win-library/2.15/Rgraphviz/libs/x64/Rgraphviz.dll':
>> >> >> >> >  LoadLibrary failure:  The specified module could not be found.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >  Check that (1) graphviz is installed on your system; (2) the
>> >> >> >> >  installed version of graphviz matches '2.20.3'; this is the
>> >> >> >> > version
>> >> >> >> >  used to build this Rgraphviz package; (3) graphviz is
>> >> >> >> > accessible
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >  R, e.g., the path to the graphviz 'bin' directory is in the
>> >> >> >> > system
>> >> >> >> >  'PATH' variable.  See additional instructions in the 'README'
>> >> >> >> > file
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >  the Rgraphviz 'source' distribution, available at
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >  http://bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/Rgraphviz.html
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >  Ask further questions on the Bioconductor mailing list
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >  http://bioconductor.org/docs/mailList.html
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Error: package/namespace load failed for ‘Rgraphviz’
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The file 'C:\Users\Mark W
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Miller\Documents\R\win-library\2.15\Rgraphviz\libs\x64\Rgraphviz.dll'
>> >> >> >> > does
>> >> >> >> > exist in that folder and in the folder where I copied and
>> >> >> >> > pasted
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > into: 'c:\Program
>> >> >> >> > Files\R\r-2.15.0\library\Rgraphviz\libs\x64\'.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > In addition to the steps described above I have tried countless
>> >> >> >> > variations
>> >> >> >> > over approximately 8 hours, including uninstalling R and
>> >> >> >> > re-installing
>> >> >> >> > it.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > During one reboot maybe 4 hours into this process I even got an
>> >> >> >> > error
>> >> >> >> > message on start-up and almost everything on my desktop had
>> >> >> >> > disappeared.
>> >> >> >> >  I
>> >> >> >> > restarted the computer again and my normal desktop was
>> >> >> >> > restored.
>> >> >> >> >  (I
>> >> >> >> > found
>> >> >> >> > a post on the internet describing something similar when trying
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > install
>> >> >> >> > 'Rgraphviz' but I do not know whether my experience was related
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > previous incident.)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I am hoping someone can provide detailed step-by-step
>> >> >> >> > instructions
>> >> >> >> > on
>> >> >> >> > how
>> >> >> >> > to install the package Rgraphviz and/or identify where I am
>> >> >> >> > making
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> > mistake based on the information I have provided.  I have tried
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > include
>> >> >> >> > here as much information as I can think of.  If I can include
>> >> >> >> > additional
>> >> >> >> > helpful information please let me know.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I wonder whether the above warning message is related to why I
>> >> >> >> > cannot
>> >> >> >> > install 'Rgraphviz': 'Warning message: installed directory not
>> >> >> >> > writable,
>> >> >> >> > cannot update packages 'foreign', 'MASS', 'mgcv', 'nlme',
>> >> >> >> > 'survival''.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> No. That is just biocLite() telling you that those packages
>> >> >> >> couldn't
>> >> >> >> be updated because they live in a directory that you can't write
>> >> >> >> to.
>> >> >> >> If you log in as an admin user you can update those packages and
>> >> >> >> make
>> >> >> >> that message go away, or you can just ignore it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Dan
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > I have not previously posted on this forum.  Hopefully I am
>> >> >> >> > following
>> >> >> >> > protocol.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thank you for any advice.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Mark W. Miller
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >        [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
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