[BioC] : Patent issues of classification algorithms

Holger Schwender holger.schw at gmx.de
Tue Dec 15 22:24:30 CET 2009


Hi Francois,

just one little correction: siggenes is now available under LGPL (>=2). 

Best,
Holger



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> Datum: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:00:41 -0500
> Von: Francois Pepin <fpepin at cs.mcgill.ca>
> An: qinghua xu <xy0702cy at yahoo.com.cn>
> CC: qinghua.xu at as.biomerieux.com, bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch
> Betreff: Re: [BioC] : Patent issues of classification algorithms

> Dear Qinghua,
> 
> I don't think you should concern yourself too much with patents on most 
> classification methods.
> 
> Yes, there might be lots of SVM patents in a biomedical field, but the 
> basic method for SVM is not patented and the same is true for almost all 
> other methods.
> 
> Unless something malicious was going on, the license field should tell 
> you if there is anything you should worry about. For example, the 
> siggenes packages says that a paid license is needed for non-academic
> users.
> 
> But as I said, I don't think any of the basic classification methods in 
> R (including in e0171) are patented and I would not worry about it in a 
> publication.
> 
> If you were planning on commercializing a test, it could be worth 
> checking more heavily about it.  I would expect those patents are of the 
> sort, using genes X,Y,Z with this algorithm with these parameters to 
> solve this problem. Just using the same algorithm would probably not be 
> covered by those patents. Still, if there is money at stake, you would 
> be better off contacting someone specialized in the field.
> 
> Francois
> 
> On 12/14/2009 10:49 PM, qinghua xu wrote:
> > Dear Sean,
> >
> > Thanks a lot for your prompt reply!
> >
> > I think the main concern is not the citation issue. That should be
> OK. I have rapidly checked the "GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE" under which R
> packages are released. If I understand correctly, it is more about COPYING,
> DISTRIBUTIONÂ and MODIFICATION program itself, rather than the outputs
> from using program.
> >
> > Take the famous package (e0171) as an example. Without doubt, it is
> under the licence GPL-2, however, I also find massive patents of SVM
> application in the biomedical field.  Maybe, it is rather a question for
> intellectual property protection specialists.
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > Qinghua
> >
> >
> >
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> qinghua.xu at as.biomerieux.com
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> > 主 题: Re: [BioC] Patent issues of classification
> algorithms
> >
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I would like to know is there any patent related concern when try to
> publish a microarray study using different classification algorithms, like
> KNNs, Random Forest, Support Vector Machine and so on?
> >>
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> >
> > A couple of places to look:
> >
> > In the DESCRIPTION of each package available for R, there is a license
> > line that may be useful for determining the license under which the
> > software is released.  More importantly, though, is probably the
> > citation() entry, which gives the citations for the package that
> > should be cited if the package is used in a publication.
> >
> > As for patents, I'm not sure how important that is from a user
> > perspective; perhaps others want to comment here.
> >
> > Sean
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