[BioC] outlier removal from gene chip
Weiwei Shi
helprhelp at gmail.com
Tue Sep 19 22:35:36 CEST 2006
thanks for all of suggestions here.
i will go w/o removing those "outliers" first and update some result
if necessary.
On 9/19/06, Kasper Daniel Hansen <khansen at stat.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sep 19, 2006, at 12:18 PM, Weiwei Shi wrote:
>
> > my current way is using mahalanobis() distance.
> >
> > to Sean:
> > do u think that example: -14k is ok?
>
> That example could be a case of the gene being expressed in one
> condition and not being expressed in another. I do not remember where
> the data are from (or if you have even described that) or platform
> or ..., but I would agree with Sean and say that you do not want to
> blindly remove the genes. Note that we are not advising that you
> shouldn't remove the gene, just that you should take a careful look
> at the data and try to decide what to do.
>
> As Fangxin clearly writes, it is hard to really know what is an outlier.
>
> Kasper
>
>
> >
> > On 9/19/06, fhong at salk.edu <fhong at salk.edu> wrote:
> >> Dear Weiwei,
> >> The definition of outlier is not clear, and no data point should be
> >> treated as outlier unless there is reason to believe so. The
> >> simple way to
> >> detect it is that 1.5IQR criteria, which you can write your own
> >> code (one
> >> or two lines). Update me if there are any other method to detect
> >> outliers.
> >>
> >> Fangxin
> >>
> >>
> >>> dear listers:
> >>>
> >>> I have a question on whether bioconductor has some tool-kit to
> >>> detect
> >>> outliers and remove them.
> >>>
> >>> my original dataset looks like this:
> >>> V1 V51 V53 V55 V57
> >>> 1 -493249600 1.459459 -3.069444 -1.300000 1.935484
> >>> 2 -1613096495 -1.139269 -5.525281 -16.592593 -1.831978
> >>> 3 1626196571 -3.500000 -1.011662 2.223881 3.921053
> >>> 4 -1397009217 -3.571429 1.685714 -1.180297 -6.807692
> >>> 5 1428659728 -1.405405 -1.469004 -4.779754 -1.033708
> >>> 6 459853658 -2.158879 -7.510823 -1.085581 -9.382979
> >>> 7 530182506 -1.431677 -1.336343 -3.126437 4.878788
> >>> 8 1173842263 1.215385 1.856410 -2.059794 -6.020833
> >>> 9 28847 2.407895 -2.048889 -1.730337 -1.178947
> >>> 10 -1961875610 2.864159 -2.301234 -4.733264 -1.172058
> >>>
> >>> V1: internal probe id
> >>> the rests are different samples. the cells are fold-change of
> >>> disease/normal.
> >>>
> >>> summary of the sample columns( V51, ... V57) gives the following:
> >>> V51 V53 V55 V57
> >>> Min. :-482.000 Min. : -55.7342 Min. :-122.074 Min.
> >>> :-14086.750
> >>> 1st Qu.: -2.159 1st Qu.: -1.7312 1st Qu.: -2.125 1st Qu.:
> >>> -1.831
> >>> Median : -1.199 Median : -1.0416 Median : -1.200 Median :
> >>> -1.080
> >>> Mean : -0.918 Mean : 0.1662 Mean : -1.027 Mean :
> >>> -1.874
> >>> 3rd Qu.: 1.441 3rd Qu.: 1.5721 3rd Qu.: 1.419 3rd Qu.:
> >>> 1.521
> >>> Max. : 198.434 Max. :1478.1639 Max. : 95.768 Max. :
> >>> 683.519
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My question is, is there any package which can detect those outliers
> >>> (like -14086.750)and remove them and get an "average" for each gene
> >>> (instead of each probe)?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>> Weiwei
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Weiwei Shi, Ph.D
> >>> Research Scientist
> >>> GeneGO, Inc.
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------
> >> Fangxin Hong Ph.D.
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Weiwei Shi, Ph.D
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"No, I did not. But I believed..."
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