[BioC] loess and limma

john seers (IFR) john.seers at bbsrc.ac.uk
Thu Sep 14 17:39:19 CEST 2006


Hi Wolfgang

> so I am often also perplexed how people use such a
>heavy gun without much thought.


I am trying to avoid being one of those people. :)


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-----Original Message-----
From: Wolfgang Huber [mailto:huber at ebi.ac.uk] 
Sent: 14 September 2006 15:58
To: john seers (IFR)
Cc: sdavis2 at mail.nih.gov; bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [BioC] loess and limma


Hi John,

> This worries me as people routinely slap in a loess normalisation. 

Non-parametric smoothing (such as loess) is an enormously powerful tool,
but getting it right (especially at the boundaries) can be tricky, and
there are parameters to choose such as the 'span' and the order of the
local polynomials, so I am often also perplexed how people use such a
heavy gun without much thought.

There is some potential for over-fitting and smoothing out real signal.

Well, that's my little rant for the afternoon :)

 Best wishes
 Wolfgang

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