[BioC] AffyPLM
Arne.Muller at aventis.com
Arne.Muller at aventis.com
Mon Mar 1 16:08:45 MET 2004
If the horizontal striping (due to the scanner) is a systematic error, then
one doesn't have to bother, right? However, I've found some strange blobs
(with "tentacles") on a few of my chips that sneeked through the standard QC.
I guess this is not be a systematic error.
How do you decide when you've to discard a chip?
regards,
Arne
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> To: Francois Collin; Lawrence Paul Petalidis;
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> Subject: Re: [BioC] AffyPLM
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>
> Because the methods for combining the probes into gene
> expression values
> are robust to outliers, and because the probes are printed so
> that probes
> from the same genes are spatially dispersed, scratches and
> small "blobs"
> should not have much effect on your results. Defects that
> cover a large
> percentage of your array will certainly be poor. I have
> looked at about 50
> array images (mostly arabidopsis and mouse) and all have horizontal
> striping that appears to be a scanner artifact.
>
> --Naomi
>
> At 09:31 AM 2/19/2004, Francois Collin wrote:
> >Paul,
> >The weights are derived from the model fit residuals -
> >they are transformations of the residuals standardized
> >by the model fit residual variance (fit here being
> >probe set specific). Weights will be 1.0 if the
> >residuals are small compared to the residual variance,
> >and then decrease toward zero as the value of the
> >absolute standardized residuals increase. On the chip
> >speudo-image of the weights, what is highlighted is
> >the spatial distribution of probes with large absolute
> >standardized residuals - outliers, in a sense, that
> >might have an impact on the fit, although this impact
> >is minimized by the robustness of the fit. If there
> >is a local artifact - a scratch, uneven hybridization,
> >incomplete wash, bubble, etc - this will appear as a
> >cluster on the chip weight pseudo-image. You could
> >also see a chip where residuals are uniformly elevated
> >throughout the chip indicating that either the RNA
> >preparation, or the hybridization assay failed.
> >
> >The pseudo images of the residuals are just images of
> >untransformed residuals. Here you may see local
> >clusters that do not appear in the weights -
> >corresponding to slightly dim or slightly bright spots
> >which lead to elevated residuals, but not elevated
> >enough to be picked up by the weights. These are
> >useful to detect effects which may be good to know but
> >are too subtle to be picked up in the weights. In
> >general, the images of the residuals tell the same
> >story as the weights.
> >
> >-francois
> >
> >
> >--- Lawrence Paul Petalidis <lpp22 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > Hello All,
> > > I am quite new to BioC and would appreciate your
> > > help on this. I am
> > > experimenting with AffyPLM and taking a look the
> > > post AffyPLM quality
> > > diagnostic pseudo-chip images [pset <- fitPLM(eset)
> > > and then
> > > image(pset) ]. Can anybody recommend how one
> > > shoud interpret these
> > > images as a quality-checking step? Further, could
> > > one clarify for me
> > > what the differences between the plots that show
> > > weight, and those that
> > > show residuals?
> > > I thank you for your kind attention, Lawrence
> > >
> > >
> > >
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