[Bioc-devel] loading database package changes random number
Steffi Grote
@te|||_grote @end|ng |rom ev@@mpg@de
Wed May 22 15:30:37 CEST 2019
Hi all,
I tried to circumvent the problem by adding an optional seed as parameter like this:
my_fun = function(..., seed = NULL){
code that might change the RNG
if (!is.null(seed)){
set.seed(seed)
}
code that runs permutations
}
which solves the reproducibility issue, but gives me a Warning in BiocCheck:
* WARNING: Remove set.seed usage in R code
Found in R/ directory functions:
my_fun()
What is the best way to deal with this?
Thanks in advance,
Steffi
> On April 12, 2019 at 1:10 AM Martin Morgan <mtmorgan.bioc using gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> That easy strategy wouldn't work, for instance two successive calls to MulticoreParam() would get the same port assigned, rather than the contract of a 'random' port in a specific range; the port can be assigned by the manager.port= argument if the user wants to avoid random assignment. I could maintain a separate random number stream in BiocParallel for what amounts to a pretty trivial and probably dubious strategy [choosing random ports in hopes that one is not in use], but that starts to sound like a more substantial feature.
>
> Martin
>
> On 4/11/19, 7:06 PM, "Pages, Herve" <hpages using fredhutch.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Steffi,
>
> Any code that gets called between your calls to set.seed() and runif()
> could potentially use the random number generator. So the sequence
> set.seed(123); runif(1) is only guaranteed to be deterministic if no
> other code is called in between, or if the code called in between does
> not use the random number generator (but if that code is not under your
> control it could do anything).
>
> @Martin: I'll look at your suggestion for DelayedArray. An easy
> workaround would be to avoid changing the RNG state in BiocParallel by
> having .snowPort() make a copy of .Random.seed (if it exists) before
> calling runif() and restoring it on exit.
>
> H.
>
> On 4/11/19 15:25, Martin Morgan wrote:
> > This is actually from a dependency DelayedArray which, on load, calls DelayedArray::setAutoBPPARAM, which calls BiocParallel::MulticoreParam(), which uses the random number generator to select a random port for connection.
> >
> > A different approach would be for DelayedArray to respect the user's configuration and use bpparam(), or perhaps look at the class of bpparam() and tell the user they should, e.g., BiocParallel::register(SerialParam()) if that's appropriate, or use registered("MulticoreParam") or registered("SerialParam") if available (they are by default) rather than creating an ad-hoc instance.
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 4/11/19, 10:17 AM, "Bioc-devel on behalf of Steffi Grote" <bioc-devel-bounces using r-project.org on behalf of steffi_grote using eva.mpg.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I found out that example code for my package GOfuncR yields a different result the first time it's executed, despite setting a seed. All the following executions are identical.
> > It turned out that loading the database package 'Homo.sapiens' changed the random numbers:
> >
> > set.seed(123)
> > runif(1)
> > # [1] 0.2875775
> >
> > set.seed(123)
> > suppressWarnings(suppressMessages(require(Homo.sapiens)))
> > runif(1)
> > # [1] 0.7883051
> >
> > set.seed(123)
> > runif(1)
> > # [1] 0.2875775
> >
> > Is that known or expected behaviour?
> > Should I not load a package inside a function that later uses random numbers?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Steffi
> >
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